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Details Or Lower Grade For The Same Price?

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 Posted 04/12/2022  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find the rule in coin collecting that "cleaning=bad" to be artificially imposed. Most old dirty things, you want to get cleaned, why are coins any different? Of course a harsh cleaning that removes metal or makes the coin unnaturally shiny is different, but just a gentle old cleaning? I can envision an alternate universe where there is no such stigma. And in the OP example I'd probably take the F-details (though still waiting on pics :) )
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 Posted 04/12/2022  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would need to see both. I have cleaned coins and even a whizzed coin in my albums. They look really nice so I'm fine with them in an album. I would have a hard time buying a details slabbed coin just because it's marked on the slab. Some people are turned off just with the word details, this is one reason I haven't completed my registry 7070, the last few coins look nicer in details than straight graded, so I wait.
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 Posted 04/12/2022  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I were to crack several of my coins out of their slabs, they would lose their artificial "details" stigma. A coin is a coin is a coin IMO. The slabs are useful for authentication though. My VF details cleaned 1795 dollar will stay in its slab.

I inherited my grandpa's old partially completed Whitman books of Lincolns and Buffalos. When I was a kid, that was coin collecting. Condition wasn't as important as filling the hole with something you got in pocket change. As a county treasurer for 40 years, my grandpa got to see LOTS of change. But he didn't ever fill all the holes, and few of the coins in the holes would pass the "details" muster. The coins I collect today are ones he would NEVER have found, in any condition.
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 Posted 04/12/2022  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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For me it really depends on what the coin detailed for. A lot of coins can be detailed and still look really nice, or detailed for something very minor. Another good reason to not pass over detailed coins is to get rarer coins for cheaper prices.


That said, I don't really collect slabbed coins in the first place (...though I might have to if I ever end up moving into higher levels, especially for US coinage), so this is a significantly lesser problem for me anyway.
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 Posted 04/12/2022  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LuckyPunk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a collector of many things(coins my most novice), there are always 2 types. The kind who like what they have,and the "one-uppers".
Anything with historic value seems like a fake to me when it's unused or too nice.
I like loose or details grade coins. But I am just a collector and not an investor. I feel they both have their place for someone. Although it is nice when you find out pieces you undervalued are desireable. A details flowing hair is on my hunt list.
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 Posted 04/12/2022  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Interesting thread. Of course many of my US coins are *both* details and low grade.
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 Posted 04/12/2022  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with all of the OP's comments.
Just make sure that when considering to buy a 'comments' coin be it cleaned, damaged or whatever, that the price is very advantageous to you, considering the price of such other coins with equivalent damage severity in the marketplace.

Most all very early American coins seem to have at least a minor and less damaging, or major, and more damaging cleaning at sometime or other.
Indeed, most ancient coins need to be cleaned after recovery, before they are sold.

Cleaning, just like all other sorts of damage, be it major or minor, can be seen very differently by the buyer and seller.

I have an interesting collection of U.S. minor silver, British Maundy, and Islamic silver coins, all holed, most probably for jewelry purposes. All were bought for very little money over their silver value.
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