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Valued Member
United States
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Here is one from ANACS:  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Boy, that takes the cake!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is essential that you must learn to grade for yourself, even if you get it wrong occasionally. How to learn? That is where the CCF comes in, with threads such as :- " You vs the grader", or " Please grade my coin" If you don't agree with Coinfrog, with example pictured, it's time to learn !  |
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 United States
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The rims, letters, and date look okay for the grade, but there's obviously a lot of central weakness. I wonder if the graders felt that wasn't from wear. What does the reverse look like?
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Valued Member
 United States
419 Posts |
I no longer have a picture of the reverse. But in my opinion it would not matter how nice the reverse is, I would never call this VF. Here is a similar PCGS graded coin that I agree with grade.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The sharpness of the letters and rim is dramatically different in that G-4 example. I'm guessing they felt the obliteration of detail in the central figure was from a strike through grease. It would be hard for the body and skirt to be worn so much without affecting the date and rims. If the reverse looked VF, that would confirm it. VF-20 might be a little optimistic, but it's not that far off.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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So would you pay, say, Fine-15 money for it?  Edited by Coinfrog
07/02/2022 1:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5661 Posts |
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So would you pay, say, Fine-15 money for it? No, if it's from a filled die, the weak details would obviously affect the value, but not the technical grade. |
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Valued Member
United States
419 Posts |
I found the reverse picture. Here it is - sold for $308.20 - Well below greysheet for VF20 but no way I would pay that much.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for digging the reverse photo up. It looks like a solid F-15 on the reverse. I definitely agree that the loss of detail from a Grease Filled Die on the obverse detracts and reduces value. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
756 Posts |
same coin in both slabs.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2213 Posts |
Here's the worst one I ever got, 2020 $5 gold eagle, lots of obverse damage for a MS69 in my opinion. I sent it back, got a refund. I posted this coin in a prior topic over a year ago but thought it okay to post again here.   Edited by livingwater
08/24/2022 2:01 pm
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I would give that Walker a VG10 at best, it is apalling. Some of those grading companies must have novices on work furlough? The G4 coin may even be undergraded, thats a G6 Easily and really a coin I would want more than the first as its a good strike and the design is quite bold for such a worn coin.
If you are paying $25 or more for slabbing, you expect some competency.
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Valued Member
United States
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I guess most of the reverse legend missing doesn't matter  |
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Sweden
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Edited by Moniker
07/08/2024 07:56 am
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 United States
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Some really bad examples here.  |
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Posted 07/01/2022 10:44 pm
