Thoughts On This Octavian Denarius?

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xxmarkabyx Valued Member United States 80 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 12:10 pm Im considering bidding on this piece. Weight is 3.54 grams, diameter is 18.5mm. Anybody question the authenticity? Report this Post to the Staff

louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1303 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:08 pm The seller was easy to find so I post the link here as he or she has edge photos....My main problem with the coins are first he has a lot of octavian denarius coins and they all have the exact same patina surface. I don't see how that would be the case and it is a problem for me. So sadly I'd not purchase these... https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335312419 https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335341492 https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335229210 https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335241597 And his Marc Antony and Julius Caesar and Tribute Penny of Tiberius look the same. So quite a bad sign... https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335343590 https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335346896 https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335345517 Edited by louisvillekyshop 01/28/2023 1:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
xxmarkabyx Valued Member United States 80 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:13 pm Yeah, similar patina and surfaces. Very curious for sure. Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1303 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:15 pm Oh and this is funny. Each flan these were struck on are exactly 3.5 - 3.65 grams. He should have just put up one at a time if he wanted to sell these. This is just silly now. Report this Post to the Staff
travelcoin Pillar of the Community United States 1120 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:20 pm IMHO it's a fake - patina and edges are not right. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnConduitt Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 725 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:20 pm It has a lot of dirt on it, which might hide any production method. It's rather round and well-centred, if you compare it to others, but has pretty much the average weight and diameter (not that that matters, given the range of weights and sizes): http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).aug.37B Edited by JohnConduitt 01/28/2023 1:21 pm Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1303 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:22 pm Says Austria but about the seller says 2022 registered in Bulgaria. Doing really well surprisingly with these. Private listings in feedback mostly so you can't see what others looked like he past sold. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnConduitt Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 725 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:24 pm Oh, I just noticed that although the item says it is from 'Linz, Austria', the seller is from Bulgaria. The alarm bells are very loud, now. Edit: snap! Edited by JohnConduitt 01/28/2023 1:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1303 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:24 pm You notice when he puts up a real coin, no matter how common or lower grade those are high prices and buy it now? Those have some value to him.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/314271206932 Edited by louisvillekyshop 01/28/2023 1:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
JohnConduitt Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 725 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 1:31 pm Quote: You notice when he puts up a real coin, no matter how common or lower grade those are high prices and buy it now? Those have some value to him.. Yes, 'do not buy my real coins, or I'll have nothing to show I'm genuine'. Edited by JohnConduitt 01/28/2023 1:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
xxmarkabyx Valued Member United States 80 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 2:06 pm All too interesting! Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34393 Posts	Posted 01/28/2023 5:00 pm @xxm, consider looking for your ancient coins on vcoins rather than ebay. For sure no marketplace is 100% safe, but I believe you will find fewer of these shenanigans. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
xxmarkabyx Valued Member United States 80 Posts	Posted 01/29/2023 10:37 am Hi Spence, I typically do. I usually buy from Vcoins, CNG, Baldwins, and dealers at the NYINC, but I was just browsing ebay out of curiosity. This is a type I'm interested and can't find many others currently available. That's probably a good thing since I went a little overboard in New York City a couple of weeks ago. I'm still licking my wounds a bit! Report this Post to the Staff
travelcoin Pillar of the Community United States 1120 Posts	Posted 01/29/2023 12:38 pm I wouldn't rule out ebay, I've bought many coins from that outlet. There are a lot of reputable dealers. There is a link top left of this forum with CCF recommend sellers. Shout out to:cody111111 Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 01/30/2023 04:04 am Look familiar? From the Forvm fake reports. Report this Post to the Staff
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