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 Posted 04/20/2023  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Rolls of Silver Eagles trading at $13 or more
Over Spot!!
90 per cent coin at $10 plus over spot !


Does this mean that Spot is not an accurate value for the physical silver or is this just a temporary spike in premiums? As the premium gap widens, I am starting to wonder.

Seems like premiums have been high since COVID and have not really retreated. Demand right now is high for physical silver, so the premiums continue up.

Also, if you are selling a lot and buying very little, that would indicate that premiums will need to increase more since silver has settled in over $25.
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 Posted 04/20/2023  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Does this mean that Spot is not an accurate value for the physical silver or is this just a temporary spike in premiums?


I have always considered the spot price to be a guide since I think it's related to paper contracts for 1000-ounce positions. I may be wrong. Either way, the demand right now is unlike any other time that I can remember. People have pretty tight grips on their physical silver and don't seem to be selling like we may have seen with past silver spot price increases. Will the premiums come down? I would like to think so, but will continue to buy regardless.
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 Posted 04/20/2023  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jakes Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I havent been buying any bullion recently. The spike in silver prices have made me focus more on morgans / slq's and finishing my type set.
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 Posted 04/20/2023  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is it more likely that silver goes to $30 or falls to $20?

Hard to say, but as little as three years ago we had a price swing in 4 months from $12 to $30. Then, from $30 to $17 in 2022. So, silver's all over the place in price. I wouldn't be surprised to see silver back into the teens.
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 Posted 04/21/2023  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaxenro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hard to say, but as little as three years ago we had a price swing in 4 months from $12 to $30. Then, from $30 to $17 in 2022. So, silver's all over the place in price. I wouldn't be surprised to see silver back into the teens.


Note: I define a small stacker of physical metals as one holding 5,000 ounces or less, probably considerably less, when referenced below. Ones who typically spend a few hundred dollars at a pop, not $50K or more. Your milage may vary

Any prediction I make will most likely be wrong but I feel silver is finding a new floor of above $20. I think any dips below will be temporary and values above likely. I think a $20 to $25 range likely and movement to a $25 to $30 range over time with occasional spikes

And I see premiums staying high with actual values of small physical staying well above spot Any additional bank failures will increse premiums more.

Would I be surprised to see silver touch $40 this year? No but not sustainably

Would I be surprised to silver briefly dip into the high teens? Again no but I think it would move back above $20 shortly after

I frequent a few survival/prepper type message boards and activity/membership is increasing. As more people are becomming aware of the high US debt load, inflation especially in food, and bank instability, along with asking about food storage many are asking about silver and gold. The market for small amounts of physical metals is large but not so large that an influx of new small buyers won't keep premiums inflated

I do think we are moving to a two tiered system of spot for large industrial buyers of paper contracts and actual for small buyers of junk or bullion and the price differential is here to stay
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 Posted 04/21/2023  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazy Monkey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Premiums are mostly high, but you can find good deals still if you shop around a lot. Luckily the cheapest silver I've been able to find is at a local coin shop which is close enough to be able to stop by on my lunch break. He is an old guy who flips silver so quickly that most of the time his stock is really low, which is why I occasionally stop by during lunch to see what he's got in stock. I guess he just doesn't want to waste his time having silver and gold sit around too long. It's worth saving money, and often times he has silver prices less than spot. Recently I was able to get Standing Liberty quarters for $3.75 each and Walking Liberty halves for $8.75 each.
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 Posted 04/21/2023  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at this as a coin collector, I'm seeing a tremendous amount of high priced gold selling at 3-5x melt, and much higher for truly rare coins. These coins are mostly high grade, probably estates and/or liquidations of serious collectors or investors. I track a few specific dates at dealer sites and turnover of these investment-grade pieces has been very slow.

In lower grades these same coins used to sell at small premiums over melt (below 2x). The lower grade coins have largely disappeared, and when they appear are typically 2-3x melt. It is difficult to see paying 3x the current inflated bullion price for worn, scratched and polished problem coins even if they are rare.
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 Posted 07/15/2023  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TinyRetreat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When premiums were in the 10% range it was an easy YES ! Today, tough for me ... only if I want to think about "dollar cost averaging" can I even consider buying right now at 20 - 25% premiums. Keep your eyes open in the private market for a motivated seller ... deals can be had. Best of Luck !
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 Posted 04/24/2024  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manosgerms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deals can definitely be had. In particular some coins of less well known countries can still trade at spot for silver and gold on places like ebay. You just need to absolutely be able to tell what is gold for sure and then you can get some deals. But it takes a long time to find them.
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Of course....if the premium is low enough. I believe in dollar cost averaging and don't sit on the sidelines waiting for what I think is the optimal price. You'll go crazy trying to time that and when the spot price dips significantly, the premiums go up. To me it's not worth the effort to get caught up in that and I will continue to buy a little here and there on a regular basis.
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I used to "scold myself" for buying silver at $19/oz.
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I used to DCA, but then just waited for $22 or less spot, which we've had for almost 12 years straight.
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I follow "All Star Charts" a lot and they are leaning to silver a lot now as it appears there is a deficit between supply and demand now. They like most commodities now with copper high on their list as well. I am mainly buying small mining companies now but will purchase some physical silver soon.
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I like an agnostic oversold/overbought indicator like this one.

https://www.barchart.com/futures/qu...dyheight=100

But for most of us it is more like a hobby and we look forward to the LCS visit or a passing coin show.
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There is a lot of air between the 50 and 200 MA and the price ,but it also looks like a flag pattern so either up or down lol.
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