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Help Me Understand How This 1956-D Wheat Cent Graded An MS-67+

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 Posted 04/24/2023  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because it was one of "the boys" who submitted it. PCGS and CAC are a farce as far as their rep goes. They are NOT the GODS of numismatics they are made out to be. They mis grade as much as anyone else. And they play favorites.

This is all simply my opinion.
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 Posted 04/25/2023  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DiscoLover82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stuff like this just makes me lose all faith in those coin grading companies.

If there were a very clearly circulated (say, VF-20) coin in an MS-67+ holder, would people still pay thousands for it?
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 Posted 04/25/2023  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hordfest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know Disco, but I woukd be very surprised if there werent any shenanigans going on with these named collections when they get submitted by Heritage.

I guarantee if I bought that coin, broke it out and submitted it, I wouldn't sniff an MS67
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 Posted 04/25/2023  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hordfest you are exactly right. I thought mine was better than this coin and it was only a ms67. Everyone here thought that my ms 67 coin was graded right. I looked at the coin up close. It depends on the mood of the graders at the time they see the coin. Are they grading a lot of coins from the mint at the time and they are being rushed, who knows. I just see some coins should be higher and some lower. I guess I will never understand the grading process. No human is flawless just like the graders. Like people say buy the coin, not the capsule.There are so many flaws and spots on this coin it is not fair. It even has a CAC sticker. Gess!
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 Posted 04/25/2023  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep my name is mud at PCGS. ms67+ verses ms67 nobody.
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If you do not have a name, you are nobody. I am sorry I do not believe the grading system.Mods if you are upset with me you can take down my post.

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I've gotten some nice coins out of them plastic thingamajigs. Some real nice coins.
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I just thought of something. With all the computers and today innovations and technology; why can't they make a computer to grade coins. Then there is no I am having a bad day or disputes on grades. There is technology with face recognition and a lot of things where they could do it. I will probably be dead when they have that sort of thing show up. Well just a thought. Then I couldn't complain about how coins are graded, lol. Cheers to you Hordfest for stepping forward with your post. I believe you are right.
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Eye appeal and toning, apparently it made the graders happy one day or finalizer overrode the graders. Perhaps he knew the submitter?

Where's grospoison? I've been helping him with PCGS for over a year. He's an expert now at their grade manipulation.
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Quote:
I just thought of something. With all the computers and today innovations and technology; why can't they make a computer to grade coins.
Because we are not there yet...

http://goccf.com/t/442325

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