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Trouble With On Line Auctions

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On 6/2/23 I bid on several Items from an Auction in Loveland, Colorado. I won all the items I bid on. This auction only accepts Zelle or bank transfers. Well my bank does not do Zelle, so I had to wait til Monday to do a bank transfer. They acknowledged receipt of the funds. They said they would get the coins right out that week. Well a week and a half later I still didn't receive the coins so I contacted them on 6/13/23 they said they misplaced my items and they would go out that Tuesday. Well I am still waiting. I contacted them again on 6/21/23 and they claimed it was put in with the non-paid items. I told the they were very unprofessional and a poor company. They told me I was unreasonable. Now I paid $500 for these Items. I have waited 3 weeks! Am I being Unreasonable in expecting what I paid for in a timely manor?

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Moose, hopefully your coins will arrive soon. I've had issues with many online auction companies, but nothing like this. The limited payment options would have been a red flag for me.
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I figured a large coin shop I was safe. Nope!
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@moo, you will see that I have very slightly edited your post to remove a word, that while not a swear word in the George Carlin sense, isn't particularly family-friendly. I understand your frustration, but please keep your language exceptionally clean here. Thx and best wishes for a satisfactory resolution to this purchase.
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Moose - you're not being unreasonable, most of us probably feel the same way as you.

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don't remember the word! but sorry. Spence.
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Hopefully not these guys, nothing good at all pops up on their auctions.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/berger-coi...nd-2#reviews

Lot's of reviews saying they don't ship out items and money is taken. If it's on the Hi-Bid site, I have never had any good feeling about auctions there.
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I've bought many coins from sellers on Hi-Bid. Remember, they are just an auction hosting clearinghouse. There are some excellent sellers there, and some that are a bit sketchy.
Always check the Auction Information, Terms and Conditions, Payment Information, and Shipping Information before bidding. Beware of excessively high Buyer's Premium and those that use 3rd party shipping.
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I have two big problems with on-line auctions:-
1. I don't get to examine to examine any lot in hand, that I may be interested in, before placing a written bid, and
2. I don't have the option to pay in cash for a purchase.
Nevertheless, I always peruse all lots of an auction on line, before deciding to attend a view day in person. At this point, there is no need to register on-line.

So far, neither of the two problems that I have,
have prevented me from being reasonably active at public auction.

(I have never been scammed, - I try to have as small a digital identity as possible).

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Yep it was Bergers Coins. Never going to deal with those thieves again.
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Sorry to hear of your experience moose59. I figured as much when I heard your story, not to say all HiBid auctions are bad, but my own experiences have not been good and I have never had a deal see it's way through to completion, so I gave up on them.
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