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Help Identifying Chinese Coins (2)

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Hello!

I acquired these with a few other world coins and my app identifies them as the same. but they are different sizes and weights. Any help is greatly appreciated, as I know nothing. Thanks so much!

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 Posted 09/08/2023  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a one cash and two cash from the Chien lung era but it is also spelled differently in places.
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Cash coins, even when of the same issue and mint, are by no means uniform, owing to the nature of the casting process.

The Chinese lettering on the obverse is the same, which gives the reign title as Ch'ien Lung, 1736-1795. Owing to the length of the reign, the cash of this issue are plentiful, although I believe I read somewhere that they were intermittently produced during the whole remainder of the dynasty.

The Manchu lettering on the reverse, which gives us the name of the mint, differs. Incidentally, you have these coins upside-down. Referring to my copy of Schjöth, I believe you have, on the right Yunnan province, and on the left, Kuei-lin in Kuangsi province. These are less common than the usual "Board of Works" and "Board of Revenue" issues.
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@albert @publius - Oh thats all very interesting!
Of course I have them upside down! lolol Oy lol
So is there any way of knowing how many came out of different mints?
The one on the right looks like it was stamped over or damaged. Hard to tell for me.
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The larger coin has, unfortunately, been damaged by soldering. Cash coins, both genuine and replica, are often made into good-luck-charm amulets, with different designs for different purposes. A common design is the "coin sword", where coins are sewn together - or perhaps in this case, soldered together - in the shape of a sword.
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So is there any way of knowing how many came out of different mints?

Not perhaps for this specific emperor, but just from what I have read in some books, mint records may be sketchy at best or none at all, and / or they may have been cast in countless numbers.
Might have been 3.7 million strings.
How many on a string?
There is something different going on with the mintmarks or images.
Even when flipped, aligning the mintmark to the province isn't clear to me. Maybe if they were not worn so much?
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qian long, bao guang mint (left), qian long Bao Yun mint (right)

both are authentic, but worthless, the bao guang coin looks like a private issue to me.
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