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Puzzled: Ebay Slabbed Coins For Far Less Than Grading Costs.

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 Posted 12/18/2023  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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LOL! If you take a -$20 loss on every mint set, and you send 100 mint sets, that's -$2000. I figure I can safely take apart a mint set and pack the flips in 6 minutes. 12 at the outside. So that's 10 sets per hour, 10 hours, or $200/hr. We can go halvsies—you can pay me $100/hr to separate your mint sets into flips! I could even be talked into the low, low price of $50/hr, but shhh, don't tell my Coin Separator Union rep. =P


The issue with the above is that there isn't a loss. The sets are paid for and shipped directly to the TPG. They are graded and available the same day the mint releases their sets. There are people that are early adopters ready and willing to pay a premium for PF or MS70 coins. Remember most registry set collectors pay a significant premium for top pop coins to get up in the rankings. After those high value coins are sold the dealers need to recoup the cost hence the prices start going cheaper. After all is said and done there maybe a few stragglers better to dump than hold..

In the end people like me and you make our, see the below I paid $9.45 shipped. The coin cost at least $18.75 plus the 10% premium the dealer got for getting it before anyone else plus labor plus free shipping plus packaging plus ebay fees.

Puzzled:-Ebay-Slabbed-Coins-For-Far-Less-Than-Grading-Costs.

I don't question it, I just take it for what it is. Enjoy the market there are a few wins we don't need to question those :)

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So basically the money making bonanza is on the first day of release? Then what we see on the market is the leftovers and non-PF70/MS69-70 coins? I could buy that. But then what about all the graded coins from the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s? Surely the registry set top-pop game hasn't been going on that long?
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Surely the registry set top-pop game hasn't been going on that long?


Registry sets are active for almost all coins, here is my 7070 registry, I have coins going back to the 1800's and I have no top pops since why I'm at 76.

https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/co...sets/305404/
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+1 for Jbuck and Bobby. As a seller sometimes, These coins may be used for generating traffic to their ebay stores actually. A few others use $1 auctions instead where they generally wont get to normal pricing as when listed buy it now fixed price, but once in a long while can have a bid war on something.

Some are from individuals who think they have that one MS68 and don't look at the census for that grade, send it in, then ultimately dump it later to a coin dealer as part of a larger collection when they stop collecting or trying (again due to inexperience not selling themselves). People are chasing those high value coins and the rest get dumped as there arent as many collectors of graded modern coins and many dealers don't even want to mess with them.

Also, I can tell you I picked up a lot of coins through low priced auctions for graded coins setting fixed bids at the last minute, the ended prices far less than what I would have paid for grading alone but usually win only modern coins like that where there are fewer bidders and perhaps bad timing for the auction. This doesn't seem to happen for example with collectible coins, silver etc. Once in awhile that could be experience of the seller just throwing up stuff in auctions without consideration too much of maximizing individual value of each coin.

As far as bulk, I'm not sure how much are coming from that because they would usually just not grade it when it fell below the desired grade, although its possible with the discounted rate when they chose to grade in bulk they can make a profit where normally you wouldnt grading just a few, or at least take a smaller loss on those where the profit came from the ones that were the top grade in the submission, and dumping the rest as suggested.
https://www.pcgs.com/services/bulksubmissions
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