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Calling Jbuck, 1974 Micro S Ike Dollar?

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I figured that JBuck would be the most qualified to answer my question. I just recently found out about the 1974 micro s variety. Some sources claim that it is the result of a weakly punched mm on the working die which tends to make the mm appear smaller and clearer within the loops of the S. Other sources simply refer to it as clear s vs filled s. For the life of me, I can't distinguish between the two. Are there other die markers or diagnostics to distinguish the two types?

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Something to look for on the mint mark of the 74-S Proofs if for what is called a "Micro "S" It was for a very long time to be thought that it was only on the 1974 S 40% Silver Proof Eisenhower's. A 1 Die Coin. Quote of Brian Vaile of the Ike Group "Now, with the help from Mr. Wexler, we have found proof that the EXACT, SAME DIE was also used to strike up a 74-S Copper-Nickel Proof as well."

this variety was just thought to be on the 74-S 40% Silver proof. Dr. Wiles estimated that there was a total mintage of only 10,000. With the discovery of the Mint using this same die for the Cuni-Clad Proofs My guess is the number of 40% Silver ones is significantly lower.

I think it's important for folks to understand that there were two different mintmarks used in 1974 after the original mintmark (MMS-1) (Micro-S mintmark) was replaced due to defects. The second mintmark comes in 3 distinct "stages". MMS-2a, MMS-2b and MMS-2c

Some photos were added in that thread, but perhaps elsewhere there are side by side. Markers are mentioned in that thread. As you can see from the photograph there, the "clear" MM (referred to as Micro) has clear fields between the loops of the S whereas the standard MMS-1 does not.
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I pity the fool, that wants a specific 1-person reply on their post.
Really not the way a forum works.
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Sorry folks if I offended some of you by asking for Jbucks opinion. It wasn't intended to be an exclusive opinion from only he. I value all input from all of our members. The title calling out Jbuck was intended to get his attention since he seems to be a prominent Ike collector on here. Please feel free to chime in with any additional input you may have concerning the '74 micro s variety. I really wasn't even aware of the variety until recently and I am seeking knowledge from this grand resource at CCF.
The link to the Ike Group page was very informative. It appears as though the thing to look for to identify the rare variety of micro S would be the upper loop of the S not having a serif and being clear within the loop. Should be an interesting quest trying to find one of these.
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I have invited only one person here to ignore all my posts. So far, so good. I think he got the message. All others are most welcome.
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Sorry about the Mister T joke, I did watch that show when it came out, so made me chuckle.
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I don't know how anybody could interpret that as asking only one person to respond. I would respond anyway, even if I don't know anything about it. Like now.
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@MisterT: you didn't offend anyone (especially me) - It's just that you will get more and faster responses if you just post a query to the forum without calling out anyone.
There are LOTS of folks here that know tons of information that can help you out.
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could this be one of those varieties---
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@Tacc ..."I pity the fool, that wants a specific 1-person reply on their post."...
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don't think MrT was being exclusive, give a newbie a break (I'm still a newbie) ... to the community MisterT ...
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@Mikey50, need a bigger well focused shot of that MM but looks like it has potential. No serif on the upper loop and clear field within the loop. Thats what you are looking for. Check out the link to the Ikegroup page that Jbuck posted. there is a picture there for you to compare your coin to.
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I do admit that I much prefer the call-outs here than in the old days... when it usually meant I messed up!
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I do admit that I much prefer the call-outs here than in the old days... when it usually meant I messed up!

Yeah that's me , in todays world!


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don't think MrT was being exclusive, give a newbie a break (I'm still a newbie)

Yeah I was really just joking.. .


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don't know how anybody could interpret that as asking only one person to respond

Yes I now have egg on my face! ..and bacon.
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