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Old Holders: 1945 Walking Liberty Half Dollar, You Vs. NGC - New Photos Added 3-8

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This 1945 Walking Liberty half dollar is in an NGC "gold foil logo" holder.

I am going to attach a few different photos that I took this evening. It's a bit tricky to get it since the coin is slightly tilted within the slab.

Full cartwheel luster.

What's your grade, and what do you think NGC said many years ago?

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I'd say MS-66 and that it was graded either MS-64 or 65. I personally love the old gold engraved back holders .
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Looks like an MS-65 to me.
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 Posted 03/07/2024  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll take a guess, MS-65?
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Nice thumb...no hits on the devices...clean/clear open fields...nice defined feathers on left leg and chest.
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To me, pics are too dark to see surface details clearly.
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I'll shoot a few with better lighting for you tonight, Coinfrog, and update the post. The "darkness" you describe is an artifact caused by the thickness of the NGC insert holder, being about twice as thick as a modern holder.

The coin is not flush with the surface of the insert but is sunk down a bit into the insert, leaving an air gap on top between the coin and the holder; making things more difficult is the fact that it's not perfectly parallel, and is slightly angled in the insert (with the top angled down and the bottom angled a bit up.)

The end result is that the edges of the recessed insert around the coin cast shadows on it when photographing it from any angle except directly above. I can shoot it with much stronger lighting which will greatly enhance the detail at the expense of luster.
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I'll say MS65 as well.
I have a 1901 dime in a similar NGC slab tilted like that in the holder and it's very difficult to photograph.
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lots of shadows on the obv photos. the reverse I have at MS66. worst case...the obv is MS65. I'm going to give it an MS66 grade baring new obv photos
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New photos for Mr. Coinfrog and others!

Taken tonight at my kitchen table using my Samsung S22+ with and without flash. (The last photos were taken in my home office with my Nikon 3300 DSLR using 35mm Nikkor DX AF lens.)

I tried different angles to maximize detail although luster may suffer a bit.


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Much better photos. But will all the tics on the leg I'm still at MS-65.
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with all the obv marks I think NGC called it MS65
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Here's what NGC said back in the day.

Price paid: $33 (2017)

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Very Nice. Just a thought: Send it to CAC and see if it receives a gold bean. A classic gold embossed NGC slab with a CAC gold bean would make for a nice combination and would certainly enhance its value and liquidity.
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Wow, nice cherry pick.
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