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1879 Proof Trade Dollar Grade

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 Posted 04/24/2024  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could see it possibly going 64CAM, 63CAM seems fair though. There are numerous disruptions on both sides of this coin. Proofs are not graded as MS pieces. The standards are completely different. If judging this one per MS standards then it's easily 65, but it's not a business strike.
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 Posted 04/24/2024  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excessive hairlines and disturbances. The coin appears to be in an earlier PCGS holder so chances are the coin is maxed out and has already made a trip to CAC.
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 Posted 04/24/2024  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benny w to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think a lot of the hairlines arnt on the coin and are on the holder. What's the best way to clean the plastic on the slab ....then what's the best way to get small scratches off if there is a way which I'm sure there is more than one. Thanks guys!! And gals
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Also a lot of what looks like hairlines is actually the reflection of the devices if you look real close. I wish I could show everyone that's commented what this looks like in hand. I've cracked coins out and sent then to PCGS before and they've crossed and made a full grade up. Although, never have sent a proof in for grading. Also would be scared to crack this out!
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Excessive hairlines and disturbances. The coin appears to be in an earlier PCGS holder so chances are the coin is maxed out and has already made a trip to CAC.


This coin has never been sent to CAC. I know this for a fact.



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What's the best way to clean the plastic on the slab ....then what's the best way to get small scratches off if there is a way which I'm sure there is more than one.


To remove holder scratches purchase some Meguiar's PlastX at an auto store. You will also need a micro fiber cloth. Put the PlastX directly on the holder and rub as long as the Plastx is still moist, then, quickly rub dry with a dry part of the cloth. Repeat until you get the desired effect.
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Also a lot of what looks like hairlines is actually the reflection of the devices if you look real close. I wish I could show everyone that's commented what this looks like in hand. I've cracked coins out and sent then to PCGS before and they've crossed and made a full grade up. Although, never have sent a proof in for grading. Also would be scared to crack this out!


With it residing in a PCGS PR63CAM holder there's zero chance I'd crack it out. Some of the hairlines are reflections or on the slab, understood. From the images, it can't be all of them. The 63 grade indicates as much. You never know if it might pull a 63+ or 64 today. A reconsideration or regrade eliminates the risk of crack-out.

Also remember strike plays no role in grading this piece or any other proof coin. A chunk of the grade on business strikes (MS) is for fullness of strike. Proofs are all assumed to be 100% struck up.
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you new photos show some hairlines in the fields. this is very common on high mirror surfaces of a proof coin. mainly due to polishing. once you eliminate any marks on the holder I'm betting thats what we are seeing for the most part. its hard enough to grade business strike coins by photo let alone proofs. we don't have the actual coin in hand to rotate it. I think its another miss by the TPG's
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Proof-63 CAM seems fair considering the hairlines. A very nice looking coin.
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It's one of my favorite coins and I've been comparing it to the few others I've seen with the same grade. I want to send it in to CAC and I need to see if my LCS can submit for me. If I could add a video of the coin I would. Thanks guys and at the end of the day I know better...Buy the coin not the slab.
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