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Post Your Old Times Deniers And Pennies (600-1700 C. E.)

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Wonderful deniers from all!

I love the fine details on the Halberstadt denier, Keith 67.

The 'M' also looks interesting on that Normandy denier, Spence.

Your Liège denier, tdziemia, is really nice and it is interesting to see how the simplification of the Karolus monogram has begun, compared to my Charles "the Bald" denier.

I will continue with the single letter theme.

The small lordships of Anduze and Sauve in southern France were ruled by the Bermonds from the 900s until 1248. Most lords were named Bernard, and the few types of coins known all have a 'B' on the obverse - for Bermond or Bernard, we don't know.

Denier, Anduze & Sauve, ca 1150-1160, Bernard of Bermond, Sommières. Silver, 0.91 g, 17 mm.

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Obverse: ANDVSIENSIS (of Anduze). 'B' with pellets.
Reverse: SALVIENSIS (of Sauve). Anchor cross.

Edit: Added year of issue.
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Ok great, I'm going to stay switch over to Germany for this late 10th-Century Denar from Goslar.

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More nice additions!
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I am east of Goslar but probably still in the Germanic world with this anonymous temple type denar dated to the second half of the 10th century. The legends have degenerated to a series of strokes, Is and dots. It tends to be attributed to Magdeburg, but older Polish catalogs also have this type, so it may have circulated over quite a wide area:

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Nice adds!

Inscriptions tend to degenerate over time on immobilized types. My "worst" example of that is this denier from the County of Melgueil.

Denier, Melgueil, 1076-1316. Billon, 1.0 g, 18 mm.
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Obverse: ±Λ±±±V±±O( ) (originally RAMVNDS / Raymond).
Reverse: ±±Λ±DO±Λ (originally NAIDONA / Narbonne).

The coin has its origin in a denier minted by viscount Raymond I of Narbonne around year 1000. The immobilized type was minted continuously during the period 1076-1316 and became widespread in southern France. In Andorra (which had no minting of its own) it became the standard currency.
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More from Germany for me. This Denar is from the South (Bavaria) and shows a little more detail on that temple on the rev. As I recall, there are a variety of letters known on the temple. Mine has M A O.


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nice coin - If I didn't know any better, I would say that it was a ' Dryer Coin'

Yeah, as I pulled up those photos, I thought the same thing. @spence's last coin has a bit of that going on at the rim, too. Not sure what causes it, but I'm pretty sure they had a different kind of dryer back then .
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but I'm pretty sure they had a different kind of dryer back then

Yes, that would be a good bet..
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As predicted by @spence yesterday morning, I also have a 10th century denar with S / COLONI / A, but with the twist that it is attributed as a Low Countries imitation (Elsen attributes it as "atelier mosan," so perhaps Maastricht or Liege).
These places were all in the same "country" in the early tenth century: cities as far from each other as Colmar, France, Cologne, Germany and Antwerp were all in the Duchy of Lotharingia before it split into pieces around 959.
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Obverse: + HENRIS REX for Henry the Fowler, King of Germany 919-936, and ruler of Lotharingia 923-936.
Reverse: S / COLONII / A
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Gadhaiya (Indian Northern Dynasties)
950-1050 1 Drachm
Composition Silver
Weight 4.4 g
Diameter 17 mm
Shape Round (irregular)
Orientation Variable alignment
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces272540.html
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Drachms are actually outside the scope of this thread, Dearborn . . . although I must say yours is particularly nice.

Rules in my first post.
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