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Strange Conundrum On England, GB, And Uk.

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When I was a kid, I always thought that:
England, United Kingdom, Great Britain, were one in the same and interchangeable anywhere, anytime, and meant all the same place with London being the capital...

Are they exactly the same? Or am I missing something? I do know that Wales and Scotland are kinda separate but part of, but that Ireland is very much different as it is it's own country.

A friend here was saying these three are different? The map they provided is kinda cool, but appears to say the same thing I always thought?
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Take another look at the map Mrwhatis it.

England is a country on it's own, but together with Scotland and wales, they make up an island called Great Britain. Add Northern Ireland and you have U.K. Add in the Republic of Ireland and you have the British Isles. Guernsey and Jersey and Isle of Man, come in there somewhere too.

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Hey trig, what about all of the countries that continue to put effigies of UK monarchs on their coins?
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That would be the some Commonwealth Realm countries which are then part of the Commonwealth of Nations. Not all countries in the Commonwealth still use the royal effigies.
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Shouldn't this be in the general discussion forum?
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The map is absolutely correct. And coins minted for use in the United Kingdom after the Act of Union in 1708 should always be called British or United Kingdom coins, not English - although an exception can be made for the 'English' shillings of 1937-1970, as these bore a specifically English design, although, along with the contemporary Scottish shilling, they were legal tender all over the UK.
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They are also - today - politically different.

There are various powers devolved to the Northern Ireland, Scottish, and Welsh governments that were once solely the responsibility of the UK government.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...Postcard.pdf

Thus, you are drunk driving when Westminster says you are drunk driving, except in Scotland where it's devolved and controlled out of Holyrood.

That is very important for understanding the rest of this.


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