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My wife has a small collection of high quality Conders assembled around the theme of churches/cathedrals, about 25, which she now wants to dispose of.
Three are slabbed (one at MS63 BN, one at MS64 BN, one at UNC Details/Bent). The others are raw, but I expect some of them would reach that range, very few would grade below AU.
All bought around 10 years ago, many from McKivor (who called some of the raw ones as UNC, and I think tends toward British standards on his grading).
Any advice on the best way to dispose of the collection? I approached CNG and they were uninterested (though I know they have sold some in the past). Other ideas?
I'm not averse to looking into shipping them to the UK if that is where they would fetch the best price (though I haven;t yet checked out the cost of doing so). Edited by tdziemia
09/25/2024 10:57 am
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I would think Spink or Heritage auction houses, but not an expert on these. I think that both Conder tokens as well as US hard times/Civil war tokens have not really appreciated in value in comparison with other numismatic material.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to bounce them off of CNG again along with a small batch of coins and see what they say. I saw that they sold a sizeable collection of Conders two years ago, mostly in lower grades than what I've got, but haven't sold many in 2024, so maybe they decided these aren't worth the time and effort to photograh them, etc. any more.  Edited by tdziemia
09/25/2024 4:01 pm
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Although my collection nowadays is focused on the Regency Period, I used to collect Conders and have bought/sold with most of the firms that handle them, including a recent very successful consigment of over 700 of my extras to Noonans Mayfair, formerly Dix Noonan Webb, that sold 100% in February of this year. Peter Preston Morley there is a guru who's highly/widely regarded as a consummate expert in the field. I shipped to them via Fed Ex using their account, so if I paid for it that was opaque to me.
While I haven't sold with them, I've been happy for years as a bidder/buyer with Baldwin's, Davisson's, St. James, Spink, Stack's Bowers, Steve Album, Heritage and CNG. All of them have a decent reputation in the field of British tokens (...although I have challenged Heritage a few times -- and prevailed -- on their blind-faith acceptance of some NGC and PCGS atrocities).
Chatted earlier this year with Bill Dalzell at CNG who covers tokens there and he hinted that the few batches they've handled over the last year or two were mainly as a courtesy to larger consignors of other material. I'm not sure, but I get the feeling they're bearing down on ancients as their primary market.
Heritage will want all of them certified and slabbed at your expense, and they'll look for a $5K minimum estimate going in. (Ask for Kyle or Pia in World Coins to see if there's a way around that.)
If I were disposing of only a couple of dozen pieces, I'd probably call Allan or Lief Davisson (davcoin.com), more for the convenience of domestic transport than for anything else. As a bonus, you become part of their family...Minnesota Nice and all that good stuff. See their "About Us" page for the intro. You probably know that Allan did the last edition of D&H, the one before Bill McKivor's, so there's no question about their expertise and reach within the collector base.
Good luck! Keep us posted so we can track your wife's lots.
"If everything seems to be under control, you're just not going fast enough."
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Thanks a bunch for weighing in @daltonista.
At CNG I had been in contact with Bill Dalzell on something else (alerting them to a Polish fake they had), asked about Conders and got a very lukewarm reaction, so indeed that fits.
I will look into Davissions and update this thread if/when things come up.
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Managed to trip over this thread while searching for another Conder-related topic.
Any update, tdziemia?
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