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Post Your Papal States Coins - Reverse Chronological Schedule By Ruler

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This one shows S. P. APOSTOLOR PRINCEPS on the "reverse"

I was wondering if the engraver was a bit challenged since the O on MEZZO also seems to be missing.
As for obverse and reverse, the Numista convention is to cite as the obverse the side which identifies the issuer. Nothing on the St. Peter side refers to the issuer, but citing Fermo on the other side does.
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I was wondering if the engraver was a bit challenged since the O on MEZZO also seems to be missing.


It is there - though only the faintest outline. I suspect a clogged die.


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As for obverse and reverse, the Numista convention is to cite as the obverse the side which identifies the issuer
Yes I was always of the belief that the issuing authority was the "obverse". It's kinda unusual to have a person's image on the reverse and a few lines of text only on the obverse so it looks "wrong" to my sensibilities. I will fix this on my website however. I've come across a few other examples in world coins but it still upsets me
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A Pius VI - 2½ Baiocchi (1796) from the Fermo mint. Muntoni 323
Very nice!
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A Benedict XIV - 1 Baiocco (1740-1758) undated, Rome mint.

I'm not sure of the Muntoni number for this coin - but it is Numista 119530.


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Nice addition, Bacchus2.
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Yes I was always of the belief that the issuing authority was the "obverse". It's kinda unusual to have a person's image on the reverse and a few lines of text only on the obverse so it looks "wrong" to my sensibilities. I will fix this on my website however. I've come across a few other examples in world coins but it still upsets me

If the person had been the pope, it would be a stronger case for that to tbe the obverse.
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A Benedict XIV - 1 Quattrino (1755) from Bologna. This smallest denomination coin from Bologna didn't change for about a 150 year period and the same exact design was issued under many different Popes..

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And another one from a few years earlier.

I think it would be quite challenging to obtain one from every year this type was minted - somewhere around 150. I only have 8 so far.


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