Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Goodbye To The Penny

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 177 / Views: 17,851Next Topic
Page: of 12
Pillar of the Community
cladking's Avatar
United States
2271 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually demand for nickels should actually decrease! Not much mind you but several thousand coins. This is because a few small states have no sales tax meaning there will be slightly more purchases rounding off to an even dollar because merchants believe they are fooling people with prices ending in 99c.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
188213 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Plus, I think they should cut down the production of pennies than to stop making them.
That does not really do anything. They need to stop minting the cent and nickel for circulation.
Pillar of the Community
cladking's Avatar
United States
2271 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Production of the nickel to bridge the gap between the dime and quarter is necessary. But there's no reason it can't be a much smaller, non-legal tender, piece of aluminum that costs about 3c to produce. This cost will be paid for for many years by withdrawing and melting the existing nickels.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
188213 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Production of the nickel to bridge the gap between the dime and quarter is necessary.
The nickel is not necessary. Does it make it easier? Perhaps. Is it mandatory? No. Just get used to using the dime a lot more. The dime is the new penny, the half dollar or two quarter dollars become the new nickel.

Rounding to the nearest dime with only dimes, quarters, and halves...

0.10 — one dime
0.20 — two dimes
0.30 — three dimes
0.40 — four dimes
0.50 — one half or two quarters
0.60 — one half or two quarters plus one dime
0.70 — one half or two quarters plus two dimes
0.80 — one half or two quarters plus three dimes
0.90 — one half or two quarters plus four dimes
Pillar of the Community
cladking's Avatar
United States
2271 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem is if you don't have four dimes. If your change is 40c and the other party has no nickels and not enough dimes then who loses the 5 or 10 cents? It could come to fisticuffs. During covid one store tried to short me about 15c in change even after I provided a couple quarters because of covid. I told them to give me my money back and they suddenly found change. I for one will not lose on a transaction. I will either back out of the deal altogether or be the one who comes out ahead. At the store I can just have them remove one item after another until it rounds down.

As long as nickels exist we can round to the nearest nickel otherwise we'll have to round to the nearest dime or quarter making the other denomination obsolete.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Valued Member
Buffalo soldat's Avatar
New Zealand
192 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo soldat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Plenty of countries that used to produce one and five cent coins have somehow managed to survive without them. For a start, if one pays with a card no rounding occurs. If a few cents are so important, pay electronically. It's always the exact sum. As it is, with rounding taking place on the whole sum, sometimes you round up, sometimes you round down, so sometimes you're up Three Cents, sometimes your down Three Cents. In New Zealand we use Swedish rounding and somehow society has survived this for several decades. And we don't have to bother with leave-a-penny cups on the counter for people to throw away coins they don't want to carry around because they're basically worthless. And so the government saves tens of millions of dollars a year making coins the vast majority of people don't want to use anyway. Once upon a time there were fractional penny coins called farthings. They've not been made in about a century. Because they were no longer relevant.
Do not read this sentence.
Pillar of the Community
cladking's Avatar
United States
2271 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NZ has a 20c piece so the lack of a five cent coin doesn't matter. You simply deal in multiples of 10c. if you used a 25c or 55c coin they would be obsolete.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
188213 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The problem is if you don't have four dimes.
The problem now is no one has four pennies—if they even bother to use exact change at all! The table works both ways, so expect to get more dimes in your change. And expect to see the "Have a dime, leave a dime. Need a dime, take a dime" bowls appearing to replace the one we use for cents.

We are shifting the decimal point over one place, except now we have that hypothetical 2.5 cents coin. Just accept that quarters will be used in pairs most often. If this is too complex for the American people, we are doomed, but I believe that most people will adapt in three days.
Pillar of the Community
n9jig's Avatar
United States
997 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is why we need to eliminate the quarter and nickel at the same time. The dime becomes the small coin, all cash transactions would be rounded to the nearest 10 cent amount.

It also makes sense to a weight-in-pocket matter. a dime is less than half the weight of a nickel and worth twice as much.
Pillar of the Community
DoubleEagle20's Avatar
United States
1748 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Start minting a multi-sided smaller 50 cent piece. Stop minting quarters and nickels 2 years out from beginning of the new 50 cent piece. Then gradually start retiring quarters and nickels at the 4 year mark.

Get rid of $1 note and put those 1 billion plus brass dollars stored at the Fed to work.
Edited by DoubleEagle20
06/24/2025 8:20 pm
Pillar of the Community
Alpha2814's Avatar
United States
2023 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If they stop producing pennies, it would cost a lot more to produce more and more nickels.
I keep hearing this but I don't understand. Cost issues aside, why would we suddenly need more nickels if there are no more pennies? You either need a nickel for the transaction or you don't, same as before.

Quick test: to optimally make each of the sums from 1˘ to 24˘ without rounding, you need 50 pennies, 10 nickels and 20 dimes. With rounding (to the nearest 5˘), you need 10 nickels, 20 dimes and 2 quarters.
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19945 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2025  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
This is why we need to eliminate the quarter and nickel at the same time. The dime becomes the small coin, all cash transactions would be rounded to the nearest 10 cent amount.


I like that idea, get rid of all coins except for dimes. It's about the lowest denomination that you could actually buy something with.
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
Marv65's Avatar
United States
10515 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2025  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Get rid of $1 note and put those 1 billion plus brass dollars stored at the Fed to work.

Hmmm.........carry 20 1 dollar bills in my wallet or 6 ounces (3/8 of a pound) of coins.

"I got a little change in my pockets going Jing-a-ling-a-ling"
Valued Member
Buffalo soldat's Avatar
New Zealand
192 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2025  06:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo soldat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Hmmm.........carry 20 1 dollar bills in my wallet or 6 ounces (3/8 of a pound) of coins.


Maybe the answer there is larger denomination notes.

Getting wrinkly, worn out one-dollar notes into, say a vending machine, can be an all-day affair, or even downright impossible. Coins, on the other hand....
Do not read this sentence.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
188213 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2025  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Hmmm.........carry 20 1 dollar bills in my wallet or 6 ounces (3/8 of a pound) of coins.
There is no reason to have more than four one dollar notes—or one dollar coins—on you at any time.

Unless...

Never mind. I am straying off topic...

I am ready to eliminate all coinage from circulation. All newly minted coins should be NCLT, that includes a bronze cent! I have been buying all my modern coins from the Mint anyway. The last time I filled an album hole from circulation was 2019. I am 99.9% cashless now, so bring it! Bring the end of circulating coinage!
  Previous TopicReplies: 177 / Views: 17,851Next Topic
Page: of 12

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.55 seconds to rattle this change. Forums