Ancient Or Medieval Coin? Not So Sure

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Wheat Penny New Member United States 45 Posts	Posted 06/10/2025 6:52 pm Got this coin but not sure if its ancient or medieval. Weight is 0.37g and diameter is 14mm Pics attached. Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

Wheat Penny New Member United States 45 Posts	Posted 06/10/2025 6:54 pm Btw I think it is made of copper Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5172 Posts	Posted 06/11/2025 06:25 am Looks like a badly executed Hungarian denar. I can't quite read the date though, or figure out which ruler it's for. Given that it's made of copper and seemingly badly drawn, I suspect it's a contemporary counterfeit. Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7933 Posts	Posted 06/11/2025 08:22 am When we invert the second photo, I believe we have the coat of arms used by the 17th century Hapsburg rulers: Matthias II, Ferdinand II, Leopold (bars on the left, patriarchal cross upper right, crown beneath). For Hungarian denars, the legend is always: (Ruler name) D G R I S A G A B R for "by God's grace Emperor of the Romans Semper August, King of Germany, Austria and Bohemia." The first photo appears to be the madonna & child with scepter over her right shoulder. This side normally has legend PATRONA UNGARIA. At least through the mid-1600s they were close to 50% silver, and would not have looked so copper-y. Transylvanian denars have somewhat different legends: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33236.html So possibly the counterfeiter used copper, and flipped (and bungled) the legends. Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1313 Posts	Posted 06/15/2025 08:56 am Counterfeit yes, but there were semi-official copies emanating from Transylvania or Moldavia. https://en.numista.com/forum/topic132201.html Report this Post to the Staff
Wheat Penny New Member United States 45 Posts	Posted 06/15/2025 3:06 pm I bent and destroyed the coin so we're all good here Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1313 Posts	Posted 06/17/2025 2:51 pm um... some of those semi-official counterfeits are quite rare and valuable. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if this was one or not, more research was needed. oh well. Edited by andyg 06/17/2025 2:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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