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Unusual farthing-sized counter or token in bronze.

The obverse has the normal Queen Victoria young head portrait as seen on copper coins and tokens.


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The other side has L N with a flower between the letters countermarked on a blank field.

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Although I don't espy an exact match, I think it'd fall into this category of farthing tokens.

See: https://www.whitmorectm.com/unoffic...ings?page=11

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I don't think this is an unofficial farthing - there's no advert and the flowers and letter are countermarks.
According to Numista, the UK bronze farthing had a diameter of 20mm
I don't think everything of this size and shape was intended to circulate as an unofficial farthing,
for example, these playing card counters

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This specimen has a diameter of 22mm, but another of this type has a diameter of 20mm.

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Diameter 23mm

I regard this as a medalet for the International Exhibition of 1852, and its diameter 22mm
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but they all have a similar young head portrait of Victoria.
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What about a "Hobo" style coin - somebody ground of the details on the coin and did their own counter stamping!
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I would concur - it's a 'love token", made from a card counter.
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I would concur - it's a 'love token", made from a card counter.


I think a love token is unlikely.
I've only once seen a duplicated love token - 2 George III halfpennies with names of lovers, one of whom was transported.

I've never seen a group.
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I would agree - "multiple identical love tokens" would require someone to have, um, multiple love interests. So that theory can be discounted.

My next best guess would be personalized gambling tokens - in an age when gambling was either illegal or strictly controlled, putting your full name on your gambling tokens might be risky - so these have their initials instead.
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What about hop tokens?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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