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Sticky Film On Silver Quarter, Impervious To Hot Water And Acetone.

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Brandmeister, replying to this topic of where to get cheap Xylene. Still don't know how to quote. Hope this works. https://goccf.com/t/482953&whichpage=2#4345704

I went looking for Xylene in qt cans. Checked Amazon and could only get it in multiple qt quantities. And it was expensive. Gallons only in HD or Lowe's. Went to a local paint store and they had qts of Xylene in metal cans for around $7 or $8. Exactly what I was looking for.
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Brandmeister said on 8/21/2025 "I am still new to cleaning and conserving coins. Mostly what I know is BadThad's polarity ladder of Distilled Water > Acetone > Xylene > Sodium Sesquicarbonate > Verdicare, as demonstrated by DOCC. But the only coin-safe solvents I currently own are water and acetone.

Is there a coin conservation site somewhere that discusses what solvents are effective against what deposits?"

I would like to know where the demonstration by DOCC is located-is there a link to a post? The only parts of BadThad's polarity ladder I've seen so far are your first three and the last. Where was the Sodium Sesquicarbonate discussed?
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Just searched for Sodium Sesquicarbonate and got this from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodiu...quicarbonate "Sodium sesquicarbonate is used in the conservation of copper and copper alloy artifacts that corrode due to contact with salt (called "bronze disease" due to its effect on bronze). The chloride from salt forms copper(I) chloride. In the presence of oxygen and water, even the small amount of moisture in the atmosphere, the cuprous chloride forms copper(II) chloride and hydrochloric acid, the latter of which dissolves the metal and forms more cuprous chloride in a self-sustaining reaction that leads to the entire destruction of the object. Treatment with sodium sesquicarbonate removes copper(II) chlorides from the corroded layer."

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And, a cheap source of mostly Sodium Sesquicarbonate is Savogran's Phosphate Free TSP-PF. It contains some EDTA which will bind with any soluble metals which come off of the coins surface and Sodium metasilicate which I think is a water wetter, but that is trusting my memory, which can be dangerous.

Savogran is now owned by the Sunnyside Company.

Edit: My memory is wrong. According to Wikipedia again, Sodium metasilicate is used in soaps and detergents "as an emulsifying and suspension agent."

That means it will break up oils and remove them from surfaces. But it will also cause glass to become cloudy. And we've been told to use glass containers for cleaning. Maybe best not to use this and get pure Sodium sesquicarbonate.
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https://goccf.com/t/479970

That's a link to DOCC's metal detecting restoration thread.
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I had used 99% isopropyl alcohol on a 'sticky' covered coin, and most of the gunk came off but not all. I use 99% isopropyl alcohol when working on and cleaning fiber optic cables. It is virtually free of any foreign debris and water to stain a coin (of to mar up a fiber end)
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I've been reading about the solvents being mentioned in this and other posts. I wanted to fit them into BadThad's solvent ladder in their proper place. I copied the chart below from one of my searches and deleted a lot of the solvents listed. The numbers are relative terms. Polarity decreases as you go down the chart.

Burdick & Jackson solvents are arranged in order of decreasing polarity index, a relative measure of the degree of interaction of the solvent with various polar test solutes.

Polarity Index (Pī)

1. Distilled Water 10.2 Most Polar

2. Acetone 5.1

2A. Methyl Ethyl Ketone (Butanone) 4.7

2B. Isopropyl Alcohol (2-Propanol) 3.9

3. Xylene 2.5

3A. Hexane 0.1 Most Non-Polar

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