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Fake Istros Or Real? Just Won!

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 Posted 11/27/2025  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newtraffic2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The questionable one weighs 5.92
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it sure does.

but what do we think of the legitimacy?
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There are some honest legit ancient coin sellers on ebay. A few of them are also members here on CCF. But unfortunately there are also those who knowingly or unknowingly sell fake ancients. I do not buy ancients on ebay unless I know the seller through experience and they offer returns. Don't buy unless you are familiar with the type you are buying and have seen numerous examples. Safer places to buy ancients is Vcoins.com, Sixbid, biddr.com and other online auctions.



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good advice. in this example, I am very curious if it is deemed real or fake
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 Posted 11/27/2025  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newtraffic2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look aroud the eagle's wing. It has that fake black patina you see commonly on chinese fakes. Confirm?
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 Posted 11/27/2025  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know enough about this coin to say. Sometimes they need to be examined in hand using a 10x magnifier to look at the surface for casting bubbles, its style, weighing, measuring it.

One way to help avoid fakes is to buy one that has been authenticated, graded/slabbed by NGC and its photo is on their web site.

Here is a place you can search photos of fakes that dealers and collectors have posted.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/
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erg, I know them. I'll hopefully wait for an expert or a collector who collect's these to chime in. I can still get this, but I don't want to end up with a fake. The price is pretty good, and I need a nice example for my greek collection. But I just don't want to get burned. This example, we need some eyes on it for the thread and see what we come up with
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I will go on a limb and say fake.
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I am far from an expert on this type but did research them quite extensively before adding one to my collection some years ago.

This is my example:-
Fake-Istros-Or-Real?-Just-Won!

My research at the time....
Familiarise myself with the type as much as possible including looking through the fake databases. Learn to identify good style from bad style. Learn to spot the tell tale signs of cast fakes as these could be copying real examples and thus style would be correct.
There are several fakes of the type on the market. Some are from modern dies. Many are cast.
Avoid buying from a seller I did not know was familiar with the type and carried a lifetime guarantee.
If a seller sells fakes then run a mile as either their knowledge is not good enough OR their ethics are such that they are knowingly selling fakes.

I would not have bought the OP coin as it would have hit the red flags on several of the lines above, which are MY PERSONAL criteria for buying coins outside my area of expertise.
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I don't want to end up with a fake.
I hate to break the bad news to you, but it's inevitable at some point. Honestly, it's part of the learning curve. It takes years to understand the little nuances that separate genuine coins from counterfeits.

If you're new to the hobby, stick to lower-priced coins, I'll-take-a-chance coins (good price high risk), or buy only from reputable dealers and sellers.

Study authentic coins and compare them to known fakes—over and over. With time, the differences will start jumping out at you.

As for your coin, it's not an obvious fake to me. Those are usually easy to spot from just a photo. Yours definitely needs to be examined in hand, or looked at by someone with extensive experience with that specific type.
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