1850 Sovereign - Is This An R Over E In Gratia?

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jecz79 Pillar of the Community Portugal 655 Posts	Posted 12/23/2025 8:09 pm That R has been worked over on the die? Or was it only that the die was breaking and the R came out damaged? The date has that known error in the legend. But I could only find one bad photo of such coin to compare and the die that struck it was not as worn as on this one. Report this Post to the Staff

Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 12/25/2025 5:26 pm Can you provide a better image from directly overhead? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 12/25/2025 7:03 pm A possibility is that the leg on the 'R' may have been obliterated by grease in the die. Report this Post to the Staff
jecz79 Pillar of the Community Portugal 655 Posts	Posted 12/26/2025 12:22 pm I am not presently well served with cameras. Here is I think a clearer photo of the detail. From directly overhead all I got today was worse but will try another day with better light. Report this Post to the Staff
Spyro Valued Member United Kingdom 375 Posts	Posted 04/18/2026 06:02 am Looks to me like the die is on its way out. The A next to the R isn't very clever either, and there's a die-crack further round. Report this Post to the Staff
zookeeperz Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 694 Posts	Posted 04/29/2026 11:05 am I am 95% sure that is the R/E in GRATIA It has the same continuous line of the foot of E and the spur from the E's middle Serif . Would need to see it under high mag to tell though Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16805 Posts	Posted 04/29/2026 6:27 pm I'd also lean towards classifying it as "cracked and chipped die" rather than "overpunched letter". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
jecz79 Pillar of the Community Portugal 655 Posts	Posted 05/09/2026 5:25 pm Thank you. The die is cracked but I do thing there is more to that R. These overpunched letters, I have read about them but could not easily find good photos to compare. I will try to produce a better photo. And show it here if I can do one. But I am not really equipped to do macro photography. This sovereign stays in my collection and some day I will get a better camera, lens and support. Report this Post to the Staff
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