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Help Identify 1761 Spain 2 Reales

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Hoping someone can help identify this coin.
1761 Spain 2 reales. weights 3.54g. Obverse has assayers initials (PL?) on left side and mintmark (M) on right side. From what I've been able to research the mintmark is supposed to be on left and initials on right. Also I haven't been able to find any initials PL only JP.
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I would presume a 3.5 gram 2 reales to be counterfeit.
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Should be 6 g.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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There are very experience people here, some you might say "wrote the book" on Reales that are not real.
Here are better pics of the coin:
I have not looked yet, but I wonder if it might be in Kleeberg ?
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There are more members here with special knowledge & expertise with coins like this.
Maybe they will reply and give us some more insight.
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Thank you Albert for helping me and for posting better images of the coin. I am not familiar with Kleeberg coins but I will read up and hopefully learn a lot more!
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I don't think this is in Kleeberg, but some replies I hoped to read have not come in. It could be variety of a forgotten coin of colonial America. Or one of the Un-real Reales. Let's for some more members to find your post and reply.
By the way your coin is what I like to collect so I always look for them at coin shows and online shopping.
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M with crown would be the Madrid mint.
It makes no sense as a modern fake, with the wrong weight. Perhaps contemporary?
The 7 in the date is very different from the punch used at Madrid at the time. Amazing if it circulated with so many things off.
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