Lydia Gold: Same Coin And NGC Number, But Different Grades?

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abebos Valued Member Philippines 64 Posts	Posted 05/29/2026 02:30 am Hello all I would like to inquire about this coin that has now two NGC label. NGC number: 8560113-009 The one being sold on ebay now has a "tooled" remarks. But upon checking at your verification website, the label is different. The seller said the the coin was bought from an auction and was submitted to NGC with the current tooled label. The coin is now in loose/raw, and not inside the slab. Has NGC just forgotten to change the image on their date base? Attached are the images. Thank you all! Report this Post to the Staff

abebos Valued Member Philippines 64 Posts	Posted 05/29/2026 02:39 am I made a photo comparison. Seems to me that details were indeed enhanced. Report this Post to the Staff
livingwater Pillar of the Community United States 2213 Posts	Posted 05/29/2026 09:52 am Sure looks like tooling. Contact NGC and ask them. Send them the same pics. Edited by livingwater 05/29/2026 09:54 am Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24872 Posts	Posted 05/29/2026 6:18 pm Wait - help me understand. Quote: The coin is now in loose/raw, and not inside the slab. So the seller cracked it out, and is now selling it raw. Perhaps the TOOLED label was made by this seller? Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
livingwater Pillar of the Community United States 2213 Posts	Posted 05/29/2026 7:45 pm HondoB, yeah maybe the seller did the tooling himself and messed with the original NGC label. Tooling reduces the value of a coin in my opinion. Edited by livingwater 05/29/2026 7:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Victor Pillar of the Community United States 900 Posts	Posted 05/31/2026 12:39 am this may have been someone resubmitting and NGC said tooling and issued it in a body bag; but just hasn't updated their website with the new tooled tag yet. I would wait to hear from NGC before I assign some something nefarious. Report this Post to the Staff
jecz79 Pillar of the Community Portugal 655 Posts	Posted Yesterday 7:20 pm This does not make sense. I do not care much for these labels but I know that no one would throw away the not tooled label and get a new one saying tooled. Nothing to gain in that. Some one could have bought the coin, damaged it and tried to have to have it labeled with a higher score from NGC? But I do not know any collector of ancients who cares about those NGC scores. And even NGC can spot tooling. Tooled coins are now well regarded. Such scheme was very likely to backfire. Report this Post to the Staff
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