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Honduras 25 Cents 1821 And 182? -- DDO/Repunched Date?

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 Posted 11/04/2009  2:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JOE to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
These two coins are the most baffling I have yet seen, They both seem to show signs of repunching and possible signs of a doubled die. And on one, The planchet also seems to be far to wide, And some die cracks can be seen.

(Some of the photos are a bit blurry, they were taken through a loupe. Better pictures can be taken if needed.)

This coin shows an odd repunching or doubling of the 0.835 are of the coin. (I believe they punched this in to indicate the amount of silver in the coin.)

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?


The second coin is the strangest of the two. Both the date and the 0.835 seem to be doubled or repunched, The obverse appears to be a doubled die, and some die cracks can be seen. There appears to be some wear on this coin, but I am unsure if its from a worn die or from post-mint wear. The planchet of this coin also seems to be much wider to the north then the previously posted coin.

I can't make out the date on this one, I believe it might be 1825 or 1826.

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

Honduras-25-Cents-1821-And-182?----DDO/Repunched-Date?

These coins have me very confused, and I am unsure if I am looking at the right place to date them. If they are both dated 1900, then they must have used two completely different punches on both of these coins. (The numbers on the first coin are thinner, and the 1 has a much longer "tip") The numbers on the second coin also appear to be "leaning" to the left.

What could have caused these errors/varietys, and would these two coins be worth a premium? Or are these kinds of mistakes common on Honduran coins for the time?

Thanks!
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11/04/2009 9:44 pm
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 Posted 11/04/2009  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...these are really fun to look at in terms of the doubling on the design and numbers.
On the second 1900 date, I think I see at least 2 8 digits under the 9.
Judging by the surfaces and legends, these dies got used and reused--perhaps even re-hubbed to give old dies more detail?
Perhaps Swamperbob has some thoughts on what happened. I'm not familiar with Honduras, but I'll take a close look at these.
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Was wondering when you would see this one, DV These overdates are awesome.. I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinion on them!
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Yes--it's an interesting one! Look at the second 1900, it almost looks like a capital "E" is under there--I see serifs.
It almost looks like rust in the last two digits (00). There are also big die polish lines and a rehubbing in "CENTRO AMERICA" and other places too. Somebody will have to explain this one for me to have a grasp.
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