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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
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Just got this one 38mm diameter, silver, requesting ID please. Thank you    Identified - moved to World Coin forum - Sap |
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 Australia
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China, Yuan Shi-Kai "fat man" dollar, dated Year 3 of the Republic. These are a very common coin, but they're also commonly counterfeited; I'm not sure this one is genuine. The epaulette on his shoulders looks "wrong" to me, the details generally seem soft, and the rim seems to be very wide. Compare it with this example on zeno. Check the weight if you can; it shouldn't be too far below 26.4 grams. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Thanks sap, your right, just now took the weight= 28.2grams, of non-magnetic material. A coin isn't suppose to put on weight, as it ages, right? The details of the "buttons", I call them "buttons" going around the coin rim, is not the same as the picture you've link to. This was bought in Vietnam wet/flea market during a business trip by my son last week US$5/pc, bought 6=US$30 out of fancy. will post others later, there might be a genuine one in the lot. My replica collection has now surely grown by one more!  |
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Canada
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Hi, I read somewhere that these coins were Chinese Warlord counterfeit coins from the 1800's. Apparently during the 18th century Chinese warlords were able to duplicate the government coinage, making the counterfeits of metal other than silver. The coins looked and felt like the original silver coins and the purpose was to hurt the Government economy. Obviously, the Chinese have a Long History of making counterfeit coins!
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United States
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As Sap mentioned above, the original type was issued year 3 of the Republic, meaning 1914. So if this is a counterfeit it must be fairly recent, and most likely made for profit rather than to sabotage the government. Question to Nic: what kind of edge does your coin have? China minted quite a few variations of this coin in 1914, but they mostly appear in the edge.
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Australia
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This was bought in Vietnam wet/flea market during a business trip by my son last week US$5/pc, bought 6=US$30 out of fancy. will post others later, there might be a genuine one in the lot. The vast majority of dollar-sized coins found in the market stalls of Vietnam are fakes, even the ones that "belong there" like French Indochina piastres. I wouldn't hold out too much hope of finding a real one in the bunch. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Philippines
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thanks and copy that, the edge is reeded, it sounds with the tone of silver when dropped. this goes together now with the fakes 1937 australian crown and the 1896 Us dollar and some 8 others. Pretty soon I can maybe write an article about these, perhaps after (I am NOT intentionally collecting these) some more "accidental" replicas, thanks again
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United States
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Hi, I read somewhere that these coins were Chinese Warlord counterfeit coins from the 1800's. Apparently during the 18th century Chinese warlords were able to duplicate the government coinage, making the counterfeits of metal other than silver. The coins looked and felt like the original silver coins and the purpose was to hurt the Government economy. Obviously, the Chinese have a Long History of making counterfeit coins! I was thinking the Chinese warlords only existed in the early 20th century, after the fall of the Qing Empire. Because of Yuan Shi-Kai, his take over and crowning himself emperor and his death, the Chinese Republic went into turmoil. It wouldn't be until 1929 that Chiang Kai-Shek would reunite China, but with only promises from the warlords. Anyways this coin, as mentioned, dates to 1914 and millions more were minted over several more decades with the same date! This is a good chance that it is a modern fake. |
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