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Is is actually possible to claim copyright to a photograph of a coin that is US currency? I was perusing wikipedia, and they brandish the following disclaimer with all pictures of notes and coins:

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The image above depicts a unit of currency issued by the United States of America. The design is ineligible for copyright, and is therefore in the public domain.


So, is it true that any picture of currency is uncopyrightable, and automatically public domain?
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 Posted 06/07/2006  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats what I have always heard, I am no lawyer or anything but as far as I know you cant copyrite a image of a coin
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Any pic you use on e-bay to sell is the sellers even after the coin is sold.
I believe all pics belong to the photographer much like a piece of art. People make their living taking snapshots for magazines.



edit to add:
There was just an article on this in CoinWorld within the last couple weeks. It involved people scanning pics from books to post on forums.
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I seem to remember that this kind of copyright is a subpart of intellectual property which has a different intrpretation in every country
Essentially the pic or scan has to be more then just a copy without any added value
In other words if anybody could make the scan in 60 seconds it is probably impossible to claim copyright

The point about the seller is nice , but how is he going to prove it is his pic if I have the coin and claim it is my pic ?
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Hi All; so can I go through my magazines and find the fantastic '26 Oregon that was my phone screensaver? Till I broke the phone.(and can I somehow get it in my messages?),or does it have to be the given choices?
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do you mean as your Avatar if so. I will let Forum Mom Know (Susan)
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quote:
Originally posted by scoutjim99

do you mean as your Avatar if so. I will let Forum Mom Know (Susan)

Yes scoutjim,my avatar. Its a pic, in a magazine, of a $65000 coin.( Toned) people will remember this pic. Just wondering about copyrights. thanks.
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That part I do not know I will let a mod or susuan know w elcome to the forum
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Pictures of coins are not considered art and are therefore not copyrighted. Just forward the image to me at susan@coincommunity.com and I'll upload it for you.
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thanks for taking care of that Susan.
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Yes thank you both for that.I will start looking thru the magazines.It will be the last one!
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No problem. That's what moms are for.
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Thanks, again, Mom. It's done and sent.
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It's uploaded. You've got mail.
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Thanks Scoutjim and Susan. Anybody wanna buy a paper coin?
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quote:
Originally posted by ageka

I seem to remember that this kind of copyright is a subpart of intellectual property which has a different intrpretation in every country
Essentially the pic or scan has to be more then just a copy without any added value
In other words if anybody could make the scan in 60 seconds it is probably impossible to claim copyright




My understanding is similar. I am no lawyer but I think there is only minimal creativity involved to qualify for a copyright. If I take a picture of a building and plan out my shot etc for a certain effect, it is an original work even if someone can come in and take the same shot of the building.

Same with a coin, I would think. A rote copy like a scan might not have any creativity but the fact that there are articles, tips...and forums...devoted to how to best photograph a coin would lead me to believe that there is skill and artistic merit to many coin photographs. Think of the different ways you can make a toned coin look just by setting up light and other factors. Creativity? Artistic merit? I would suspect so.

Just my thoughts on it. I don't think anyone is going to get into trouble using a photo as an avater but, if you plan to make money off of an image in some way, I would be careful. Eventually, the topic will probably be tested in court sooner or later. ;)
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