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 Posted 09/27/2006  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that the question as asked is to broad to be answered in detail,, there are such things as how and where the photo was disseminated IE was it posted to a public message board, were all appropriate disclaimers and exclusions listed ,, were any restrictions for use by the public denied in writing ,, our laws as cool as they are are filled with minutia that failure of any of the minute details renders them inactive.
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 Posted 10/02/2006  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver-coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are many pictures on the internet and the rights of each picture does belong to the photographer who took it.
I read something about ART...well also art pictures can be copyright, and I give you an example.

Lets say your a photographer takes pictures from a model...faceshot.
It can be art the way they make the pictures...but it,s the work of the photographer and the rights belong to him
as he was the one who took it. For this reason a model does sign for it...as he did hire her.

A picture from a coin can also be copyrighted as it can't protest against it or claim the rights
from as it is an object...a person can on the other hand claim this right if he or she did not
give permission to use the pictures.

Still te best way to protect pictures, at least if you own the rights and dont want others to use them, is to mark them.
An example for coins can be seen on my site...

There is also called a public domain...for pictures...they belong to all but only
if the pics has been released for the public...like on the stock exchange.













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 Posted 10/04/2006  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to throw gas on the fire, I did a Google on "copyrighting photographs" and came up with a LOT of sites. It appears any photograph of anything can be copyrighted for a $45 fee and with the correct application form.

http://photography.about.com/cs/bus...opyright.htm

http://www.copyright.gov/

From the above US Copyright Office site: "Copyright in a work that portrays a useful article extends only to the artistic expression of the author of the pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work. It does not extend to the design of the article that is portrayed. For example, a drawing or photograph of an automobile or a dress design may be copyrighted, but that does not give the artist or photographer the exclusive right to make automobiles or dresses of the same design.".

The way I read it, any person can copyright any pic of any coin (or a pic of anything else for that matter), but not of the object being photographed (in this instance, a coin). But, why would anyone want to do so when somebody else can come along, take a pic of the same coin and copyright that picture? There might be isolated examples of images of specific rare coins (say, an 1804 Bust dollar) in which the owner of the coin wants to protect the coin's ownership by photographing it for the record, then copyrighting it such that he has a legal basis in the instance that someone else attempts to state that the coin belongs to him.

Just my two FECs.

Fred
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 Posted 10/05/2006  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stujoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

Just to throw gas on the fire, I did a Google on "copyrighting photographs" and came up with a LOT of sites. It appears any photograph of anything can be copyrighted for a $45 fee and with the correct application form.



Just to clarify...That is just for registering the copyright which is necessary to bring a lawsuit and collect damages but it is not a requirement for a copyright to exist. A copyright exists from the moment of creation.


From: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html

Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section "Copyright Registration."




quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

But, why would anyone want to do so when somebody else can come along, take a pic of the same coin and copyright that picture?




Probably for the same reason anyone would want to have a copyright any image be it a coin, a landscape, a tree, etc. It exists to give ownership and control over your work. If someone uses your work for profit without permission, it is your money they have taken.

But that is probably why you aren't going to see a lot of lawsuits over a coin image. Lawsuits are expensive and damages would not be high.
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 Posted 10/05/2006  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a thin line between illegal and immoral when it comes to photo copyright. It's immoral to use someone elses work without giving them credit for it (just add something like "image courtesy of so-and-so when you post), and it becomes illegal when start talking about making money off of this photo. To make this clearer - if your using of someone elses photo affects their financial situation in any way - it can be grounds for a lawsuit.

At least that's what I remember from my digital copyright class. You have to keep in mind that issues with digital media have only been appearing in the last 5-or-so years and most of the conventional non-digital laws do not apply, while correction to these laws have not been made yet to include digital.

~Roman
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10/05/2006 09:31 am
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