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coinsrfun...What A Great Idea..  This way each coin can be scrutinized on its own merit. The whys and the why nots will help explain the minting process as to how a specific coin error could or could not occur.. This understanding and knowledge will certainly help me in future decisons of error coins. You have my go for it to use this penny as the first example..  Malibu... Thanks for the address. I will send him pictures for opinions. It would be nice to put this to rest one way or the other. After all I paid 1 cent ( Sorry 1cent no pun intended) and to me this is one of the finest pennies I will ever get. Edited by D
04/01/2010 10:59 am
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Interesting discussion. I wander if the copper looking bead is a weld?
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Canada
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Ozzie.. interesting point.. It does not look like a weld, it appears to be more of a pressure related issue as the inside of the rim shows protruding copper in a few spots and other areas have no copper fragments. Picture shows this a bit more clearly.. The copper fragments remind me of the red hot coals of a lava flow..  Edited by D
04/01/2010 12:08 pm
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Canada
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I just finished reading the error & varieties article by Mr John Regitko in the latest issue of CCN. Under the Canadian Cent varities he mentions that the book showed close ups of non-variety coins such as " Rim Variables caused by the minting press and not as a result of the dies " Could this be is a Rim Variable...  ..Any one know what a rim variable looks like.. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one.... Edited by D
04/01/2010 10:22 pm
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Canada
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adanak44..Thanks for posting the pictures as its a great comparison. Yours looks without a doubt post mint hammered rim and edges that are very uneven and crude. From what I can see from your pictures the big difference is the quality of the edges. One is crudely done and the other is inner rim edge squared and outer rounded with out marks. Yours has visible marks from post mint and the penny I have is void of these marks. Another big difference is the condition of the fields on both obverse and reverse.. Appears yours has far more scratches from bag marks and circulation. On my penny there are very few marks. Yet both are the year 2005...  Maybe its just me but IMO the two do not come close to being the same. Or could be one person was more skilled than the other... Edited by D
04/02/2010 01:07 am
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I really dont understand why people put there rare "error" coins up for scrutiny and ask for opinions,but get angry when someone gives an opinion they dont like!!If you really think you have a raritie,then get it authenticated!
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Frazzle... I am assuming that you are referring to my last post. If you are I do not know where you get the "angry " part.
Best thing that happened was these pictures by adanak44 as it gives me an excellent comparison.. I believe I said thank you to him for them.
I posted my opinion on the differences as others have posted their opinions regarding this post. It is as simple as that..
Also in my opinion that is what this forum is about. There's always going to be comments and expressions that some one may not like..But never the less we all are entitled to our expressions. I have been here for a while and I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ONE GET ANGRY. Good heated discussons but not anger.
If you think I was angry I will heavily dispute that with you as it was not the case at all. If direct right to the point, don't dilly dally around, and blunt honest expressions and points that I said in my opinions offended any one "Then Get Real, These Are Just Opinions" relating to the post.
One thing I have also learned here is to: "NOT TAKE THINGS PERSONAL" and that applies in this case..
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04/02/2010 02:16 am
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another fine example of someone yapping or "perceive with our frail and feeble minds"........Frazzle, your commment wasnt warranted or benneficial to the thread...for that I DO NOT thank you.......
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I'll vote for - This has been a great thread.
Adanak44's comparison photos - excellent.
I haven't changed my mind on the piece in question but I've still got an open mind!
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Not sure if this is an illusion, but look at the picture below:  |
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canadian_coins.. good eye..As luck would have there is a dark spot just behind the 5 and with the picture on just the right angle it looks like a pointed 5 but alas it is a blunt 5..Picture included. pennylover1010..appreciate the open mind with your opinion... With Adanak44 excellent pictures for comparison, there is a Huge difference between the two. My thoughts: Adanak44's coin: no doubt post mind hand hammered or spooned basement job.. My coin: Not done by hand, by machine some how. Maybe a hand crimping tools of some sort basement job. Or maybe some how a mint process..  |
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The thing that pops right out at me is the picture of the edge of the coin. There is a layer at both the top and bottom. It shows a separation which would not happen with plating, which is a bonding. a similar process is being discussed in the Indian coins forum, where a thin sheet of silver was put over copper Indian and Roman coins from antiquity. They were called fourees, if I remember correctly, and were usually presumed to be counterfeits, even when done with normal mint dies.
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