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5 Cent Errors?

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 Posted 04/10/2010  05:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add realpenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
First off I don't know much about coins. I found this 5 cent piece recently and was wondering if it is a mint error or if someone deliberately altered this coin? The queen side rim is odd.
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 Posted 04/10/2010  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks. sanded IMO but I'm NOT a pro. I'm not familiar with Canadian currency but if the dots that are around the edge on the reverse are supposed to be on the obverse than that will strengthen my opinion.

please enlighten me-pros
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 Posted 04/10/2010  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
realpenny, your coin I believe is made at home.
lafaa, if you are trying to be a smart (_(_) I would stop it...it is not appreciated.
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 Posted 04/10/2010  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Learn about the coin making process. The more you know about certain methods and metals, the easier it is to see if such coins are in mint-state. Try and explain how the process messed and made that coin.
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coinsrfun, what do you mean by smart? do you mean IQ smart than yes, if you mean *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. *** smart, than definitely not, I'm really not familiar with this error and Canadian coins and I might be wrong
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 Posted 04/10/2010  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey, I hit my 700th post (in my world)
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ok, was unsure.
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First of all.. lets welcome realpenny to the Forum.

Second.. lafaa, I have read some of your posts, you say you don't know anything about Errors, or Canadian coins,if you are not sure, why do you post answers your not familiar with

BTW..realpenny, I agree with coinsrfun, It looks like a homemade job.
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i may not know much about them but I can still have my opinion? can't i?
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Thanks for the info everyone, guess I'll spend that one. As I just started on coins (nickels) I am only at 'learning the standard stuff' in the learning curve. Guess I should start looking into the standard errors and get to know them.

The coin rim didn't look like it was done by free hand. They must have used a machine to make the cut. Why anyone would do it is beyond me though.

Thanks for the welcome SHAFTA9a.
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Opinions are like nose hairs, everyone has one.

Yep you can have an opinion and the advantage of sharing an opinion and the reasoning behind the opinion is that you can get feedback on why you might be right or wrong. You were on teh right path. Some are annoyed by non pro opinions but I'm not. If you stick your nickle up on the net you're asking for whatever feedback you get.

I don't think lafaa's *first* post was out of line at all as they made appropriate disclaimers but wanted to chime in.

What has my attention with the nickel is how uniformly it was done. I think I could do it in a lathe and in fact I see rim damage in the three positions where the jaws might have gripped the nickel halfway through the depth of the rim. I spend a lot of time thinking about how people create these things.
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agreed, someone spent some time balancing out this coin adjustment. Seems 2 "grip marks" at 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock. Interesting.
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realpenny Welcome to the forum!

"The coin rim didn't look like it was done by free hand." that is real smart and the others I don't know?
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 Posted 04/10/2010  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 3 places on the rim where it's messed up are not at 1/3 increments like a lathe chuck would hold it - but the jaws of a vice could indeed have held it at 1 and 7 o'clock. It does look very uniform like a lathe could do, though. Unfortunately, I'm not very well versed in all the dastardly ways people mess with coinage.

realpenny, welcome! We're glad to have you

A lot of people get bored and experiment with pocket change. Then when they get bored with the piece they're messing with, they toss it back into circulation.
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 Posted 04/10/2010  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wasn't thinking of a three jaw chuck actually, I was thinking of multiple placements or attempts in a four jaw pincer type chuck used for facing and just mentioned I could see three damage points with a fourth or even fifth possible that I can't see.
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 Posted 04/10/2010  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennylover1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really like the look of that bevelled edge. Someone did a great job.
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