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Unethical Or Just Clever Business?

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 Posted 04/23/2010  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think if I could buy coins and sell them for a 55% profit on a regular basis all day long, I'd quit my day job and do that.
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 Posted 04/23/2010  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect he does low volume. Only see one ad a month or so.
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 Posted 04/23/2010  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's basic business on a small scale...it's like a manufacturer selling to a distributor, who sells to a retailer who sells to a consumer. the price gets a little bit higher the further along the product travels.

it might be unethical if he then turned around and sold it to you in the same store for $2.00 At least he's leaving with them and putting them into "his inventory" at home.
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 Posted 04/23/2010  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I never really thought about it that way, but it really is not all that different from selling a few of the buffaloes I restored.
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 Posted 04/23/2010  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing unethical about it, just someone turning a profit from a good deal. Almost all of the coins I sell come from my local shop's bid board. Sometimes, I can get inventory cheap enough to double my money and other times I have actually sold for a small loss although that is usually my fault for overbidding and overestimating demand in the first place. There have been a few times where I have bid on a specific coin because I know I have an immediate buyer, I like those the best because it is minimal work and I can pass some savings on to the purchaser because the coin does not have to sit in my inventory tying up money. If I did not have the bid board for a source, I would not be selling coins because I would never be able to obtain enough coins at reasonable prices to have an inventory.

Every seller has to get inventory from somewhere and if you are able to get coins at a very good price without being unethical or ripping off knowledgeable people then bully for you
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 Posted 04/23/2010  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly don't have any problem with it. It's called arbitrage and is perfectly legal!
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 Posted 04/23/2010  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
any business person who wishes to stay in business must buy low and sell high. it doesn't have to be double what you paid or anything to stay in business but you have to at least make a profit to stay in business or you would go broke rather quickly. No one wants to pai 1.10 for something and then turn around and sell it for 1.10 because its not worth their time to do so. if they bought them to search through then yes that would be fine, they keep what they want and get their money back for what they dont. It would be the same with roll searchers, if they weren't looking for coins that were worth more than they paid there would be no reason to spend the time searching. If someone went and bought a box from the bank at 1.00 a piece and pulled all the silver out do you think they should sell them for 1.00 a piece juist because thats what they paid? If so you do the searching and I will give you face value for what ever silver you pull
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 Posted 04/23/2010  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an honest mark up and there were expenses involved also. Time and fuel. Selling on ebay takes time and energy for sure. There is such a thing as taking advantage of people and dishonest mark ups though. Saw a listing for a common nickel that the seller said was perfect and rare. He had a starting bid of $1200.00 for a new nicely struck 1996 jefferson or something like that, worth a nickel. Doubt anybody bit but this guy was trying to rip someone off.
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I have done that on numerous occasions. When I see good or cheap coins I do not need, if they are priced well enough I will buy and then resell them.

Nothing unethical about it.
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 Posted 04/23/2010  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, I'm just surprised that he found a shop selling them a that price.
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 Posted 04/24/2010  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What bugs me is when someone walks into a coin shop with a bag of coins and the dealer ridiculously lowballs them. I watched a dealer buy a stack of silver Kennedy's for $1 a piece just the other day. I had never been in that shop but decided to stop in to see if they had anything interesting. I really wanted to say something but I didn't really want to speak up while in their shop. The lady also had some gold eagles that she was considering selling. I couldn't shut up when she asked the dealer what would be the point of holding onto them. Once I explained how much gold has gone up over the last couple of years and that there was a good chance that it was going to keep going up she decided to hold onto them. Hopefully, she doesn't go back to that guy when she needs to sell them.
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nod2003, just before I read your last post, I was thinking the same thing.

But, it sounds like you are assuming the same guy that's buying the Ikes is the same guy selling them on craigslist. Or do you know this to be fact? Maybe he just really likes to collect Ikes and he and the dealer are comfortable with price. Maybe he's just trying to put together a specific type of set.

If you've seen the guy multiple times and you sure it's the same guy on craigslist, it must be working for him. Buy them at $1.10 and have a "sale" at $1.75! Businesses do it to each other every day.
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 Posted 04/24/2010  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deadmunny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's a good business man. I offered these for $1.20 on CCF and there were no takers. Unethical? You're kidding right?
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 Posted 04/24/2010  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buy low, sell high...it's the American way. I do it all the time with all kinds of stuff. It's how I fund my insatiable coin buying habit!
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 Posted 04/24/2010  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wontoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe he delivers
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