Got 2 obverse pictures there.. and too small for me to grade, so hopefully someone with better eyes will chime in. I noticed you've posted quite a few - someone's been shopping!
Pretty much a straight VF for both of them. If you can see the line of the beard across his cheek, then it's a VF, as a general rule of thumb...can't be higher if the top of the ear is flattening though.
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