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Mastermind VII - Pick 6 - Winner: Everyone!

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 Posted 06/14/2010  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John Paul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just did a little figuring - there are 26,339,460,714,000 permutations (=26.3 trillion).

However, after the very first 0/0 there will only be 21.3 trillion left.

JP
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 Posted 06/14/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Sorry I was away, I just got back from the coin club meeting. There was no 1922-24 pennies, which I was really looking for, but I picked up an 1895 penny. First glance I'd say fine-very fine. I also picked up uncirculated rolls of pennies for 1992,1984, 1971,70,69,68, and 2 1967's. I love my pennies. Bret Evans was our guest speaker tonight so it went a little longer than normal.

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I am hoping the game, having just 6 picks to make, will appeal to a few more players. More players, more guesses, quicker game. Or I could be wrong and this will last until July. :)
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 Posted 06/14/2010  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nah, we'll have a short list of 36 or less in no time.
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 Posted 06/14/2010  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So a guess would be... "USD GBP NZD AUD SZL IQD... and XBB for a fictional currency" <--right?

(XBB = Xshift's Boggled Brain, of course)

What if the 6 currency guess qualifies someone for a free guess AND they guess one of the fictionals?

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 Posted 06/14/2010  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there will be 4 posts in the beginning pointing out the fictional currencies.

I will know all 4 in just a couple of minutes. But will only post one.
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 Posted 06/15/2010  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"USD GBP NZD AUD SZL IQD... and XBB for a fictional currency" <--right?
What if the 6 currency guess qualifies someone for a free guess AND they guess one of the fictionals?

Well, that is one way to do it, or you could make two posts. Either way I would treat it as two separate posts. This player would receive a free guess for getting USD (assumed) right and a free guess for getting the fictional currency correct.

I think Scooby is right about the fictional being gone right away, or at least I hope so as that is part of the design. That would mean at least four people are waiting at the start line to play. It means that there would be at least 8 guesses within the first portion of the game, possibly eliminating up to 52 of the currencies. I think John Paul will like the math that this thought provides.
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06/15/2010 05:44 am
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 Posted 06/15/2010  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If luck strikes, not sure good or bad, all 6 could be discovered within those 8 guesses, (9 if someone guesses one in the correct spot). We could have a winner in the first round of play. Similar to playing the lottery.

edit:fixed a typo
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06/15/2010 06:58 am
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 Posted 06/15/2010  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What if 2 people post the same fictional currency, can the second person post again?
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 Posted 06/15/2010  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I'm missing the obvious. Early guesses with results like 1/0 or even 5/0 won't provide any real information. It will take 23 guesses of 0/0 just to narrow it down to 37 currencies to choose from. That's assuming no overlapping of guesses.

We'll know in a few days.

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06/15/2010 09:47 am
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 Posted 06/15/2010  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or in as little as 6 guesses of 1/0 would get it down to 36. 5/0 would reveal a ton of info!
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 Posted 06/15/2010  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are the odds of there being six guesses of 1/0?

If the first guess was 5/0 (winning the lottery would be easier), how does that narrow it down for you?

(edit)
Okay, obviously the 5/0 narrows things down...I'm trying to see how it *effectively* narrows things down. What strategy would be used from there to figure out which of the 6 is not correct, and to find the last one, in just a handful of guesses.


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06/15/2010 10:06 am
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 Posted 06/15/2010  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What if 2 people post the same fictional currency, can the second person post again?


I would have to take the first answer as the winner of the free guess for that fictional currency. If the second person notices the duplication and reposts before I respond then I will accept his second answer, disregarding his original post. It takes only a moment to check to see if someone else has posted while you were creating your post. I will try to wait a couple of minutes after each fictional currency guess just to be certain this does not occur.

I will do my best to be flexible in deciding the issues related to timing. If both answers appear to be within seconds of each other, maybe I will give them both a free guess. Does not cost me anything, would be fair, and will keep the game moving. I guess we will have to see how it flows.
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 Posted 06/15/2010  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What strategy would be used from there to figure out which of the 6 is not correct


It wouldn't be much fun to tell everyone the secrets of winning now would it? :)
I think in the case you mentioned, one might pick 3 from the 5/0 and post a guess with 3 from a 0/0, but this is just a guess too.
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 Posted 06/15/2010  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It wouldn't be much fun to tell everyone the secrets of winning now would it? :)


From what I've seen from those that have been playing, there aren't too many secrets. :)

So either I'm overestimating the effect of having a larger pool of choices, or ya'll are underestimating it. I haven't done any math to confirm my suspicions...but as good as you folks are at this game, ya'll (yep, I'm from Texas) are probably right.

Is it Wednesday yet?
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 Posted 06/15/2010  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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either I'm overestimating the effect of having a larger pool of choices, or ya'll are underestimating it.


Or both and the answer lies in between. The real measure of difficulty will not be known without knowing how many players are in the game.
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