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Sorry that took so long. I'm okay now. Good....that is what I wanted you to see. Just a minute while I move that picture over here:  We will take it slow and easy, so we don't stumble. Please tell me if I am wrong. We don't want to do any backing up, lest we get confused. Okay, now, consider this: the die face is 'basically' a flat surface with depressions called devices scattered around that transfer to the coin as raised devices, Right? The important thing to remember is that the field is the highest part of the die face, Right? The denticles on the die are depressions in the field, and the spaces between those depressions are actually part of the field, Right? |
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cooking dinner lol...YES thats correct...
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Excellent....now, stare at that picture again and imagine the die face as it tilts to come down and make those same impressions on the lower die. Can you do that?
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having a the backround I have I have this down. pat..
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No, you don't. Look, the impressions are made by what, the part of the field that is closest to those impressions or the parts of the field closest to the edge of the die?
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Ah yes, they are closer to the field, not the die edge
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Those impressions match up with (and were caused by) the portion of the die that I have colored black. Is there 'anything' else that could possibly have caused the impressions?  Edited by zeewool
07/25/2010 10:09 pm
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none that I can see. and not to get off topic,, was the REV the lower die? or upper?
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Are you with me Gene? The field is the high part of the die. Those parts (in black) closest to the edge of the die ARE the edge of the die, and that is what causes denticle impressions in the opposing die. We have to understand this concept thoroughly prior to proceeding. Let me know if we are still not in sync here.
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It is my fervent belief that the obverse was the upper die (at least through 1904). This is a little out of my comfort zone, but it would still have to be proven to me before I would think otherwise.
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yes I do understand, the dentils we see on the photo are below the surface of the die. the black spots are what will be causing the impressions..Its kind of a negative image to be visualized..
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yes I do understand, the dentils we see on the photo are below the surface of the die. the black spots are what will be causing the impressions..Its kind of a negative image to be visualized..
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Good. I was a bit worried there for a minute.
Now with that thought in mind, (the one about the black parts being the impression makers) pretend that the coin shown is actually the lower die.
Visualize those black parts on the upper die coming down and making those impressions on the lower die (coin). Just imagine that.
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I'll tell ya Gene, we make a great team. Kinda like Laurel & Hardy.
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