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The Future Of Modern Coins

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 Posted 08/03/2010  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The idea of changing types on coins ain't nuthin new!

The ancient Romans changed their coin types frequently. The Romans did not have newspapers, so how did they let the Empire know when they had a new emperor? Easy! Just put his portrait on the coinage! If you wanted to celebrate something, say it on a coin. If you wanted hope for peace when there was war, show it on a coin. If there was inflation, a whole new series would have to be introduced with smaller coins, or less precious metal in them, or higher denominations.

The Romans produced something like 15,000 types. THAT would make a complete type set pretty hard to obtain. Perhaps the British Museum would have the nearest thing ot Roman Type set. The Hermitage Museum in Moscow, or the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris, or the Hunterian Collection in Glasgow would be worthy runners up.

By appointment, many years ago, I spent a day in the Coins and Medals Department of the British Museum, looking at tray after tray of Byzantine gold solidii. I was about as happy as a pig in deep mud! They have thousands of coins that would be worth thousands each if they came to auction.
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 Posted 08/03/2010  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis...icleId=12619

These links don't always work here so this is some of the mentioned article;


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The Mint has estimated that 100 million U.S. citizens have or do collect these changing design series in various forms. That's staggering market exposure by almost any measure and even if the number is a little optimistic it is training new collectors to expect a high level of design differentiation in their sets.

Much of the world has a design- and denomination-rich coinage history to draw from that stretches over thousands of years. They tend to stress collecting by type as a result.

It takes time for new collecting habits to show up in the broader market just as it took about 40 years or one generation for collecting by date to fully give way to collecting by date and mintmark. Similar changes are afoot now and it is showing up clearly in silver proof Washington quarters because they have had a little time to mature.


There's always constant change and evolution in everything and the author makes some valid points. But there will always be demand for quality and rarity in all its forms in collectibles. Many world and US moderns will prove quite elusive even as type coins since moderns were not saved. All over the world people quit saving coins between 1950 and 1965 and didn't start again until the new millenium. This can't be undone because most of the coins that weren't saved are already lost forever.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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 Posted 08/03/2010  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The relief on all coins struck in the last 10-20
is much less than it has been.

CuNi alloy coins last a lot longer in circulation than 90% silver coins.
The Mint figured out that CuNi coins simply don't need the old
silver-style high relief designs to last in circulation.

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Look at coins like Barber quarters in G to VG condition -
now imagine that same amount of wear on a State Quarter.

I already see early State Quarters in VG grade, and they still have
full rims and all of their main design details.
Not to say that another 10-20 years of hard use wouldn't get them
down to G-AG, but how many Barbers and Standing Liberty's are AG-3 or
FR-2? This doesn't even factor in the untold millions of AG/FR/PO
Silver Quarters melted from 1965-80, and that some dealers will still
melt common low-grade Barbers and SLQ's even today!
That said, I could still buy bagfuls of AG/FR Barbers & SLQ's if I was so inclined.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 925dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I for one enjoy the large selection of unique designs. Remember I grew up with the same style coins in pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters and halves which got BORING very quickly. I loved the State Quarter program and was glad when they finished it only to move on to the possessions and now the different parks. It also created a new set of collectors that would not have joined our ranks otherwise. The old designs were lacking popularity and unique characteristics.

One advantage to this is that people who "collect" in bulk are also doing a forced savings plan. You will note that a lot of coins that have been in storage for decades are now circulating again as people emptied their change jars into coin star machines for cash. Coin collecting or hoarding is a great way to save money while at the same time saving for an emergency. Besides it gives us roll searchers an occassional bu coin in the deal. Let the trend continue! Sincerely, John Leckrone
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 Posted 10/20/2010  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sprucansailor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking about how to handle all the new coin designs for for my budding Type Set. I finally decided to look at them like I look at the Commems. Just pick one and move on. If I want one of each type, I will work on them as a seperate series. LOL

OTOH, What good is a Type Set without one of each type? ROFL

Is this what they call "Circular logic"? It sure is giving me a headache.

Ok, back to my original plan. Pick my home State Quarter and roll on.
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I'm in the same boat as you -- mid 20s and just started collecting, beginning with the modern stuff.

I've been wondering about this too. The 2009 mint set had 36 coins in it. That's just crazy to add to every year (especially with the Satin Finish garbage they've been using in uncirculated sets since 2005, dreck). It's kind of frustrating that an album of quarters can have 10 years on a page, then 2 on another. Hehe.

But, I guess it gives me more to put together before I move on to more expensive older series :)
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