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Quote:all clashing transfer on a Peace dollar is incuse. Wait a minute, I am not familiar with Peace and will require a little bit to digest that thought. When speaking of clashing, I think in terms of dies rather than coins, which are you referring to? Who says the reverse die was the upper die? Like the notion of ghosts, I don't doubt it, but I don't believe it either. I am iffy about this unless it is found in the mint archives, and I don't think that it has been.
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you can also see the crack coming out of the nose on the left side. notice the solid line touching 3 full rays. This could be the latest known die state for the 1C.
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Quote: Eventually they tried to clean up the break. Nope, I ain't buyin' that for a minute. I see the line, but a line does not equate to field reduction. If a break is to be removed or lessened, the field must be lapped, and the surrounding devices would lose relief. I don't see it.
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maybe not the best verbiage... but his is in fact later.
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Don't bother Rem, the line is irrelevant to anything to do with the break unless it is considered to be a crack.
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lets strike that from the record... my fingers are typing for my brain before it can process the memory.  ... lets dig up the old thread to reference what was said.
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That is a scratch, similar to others that parallel it. That is not how breaks are touched up. A break has no fix.
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And HEEEEERE it is... Lets use the verbiage he used so I do not put words in his mouth... the cleanup statement, you are right... bad verbiage. That was a bad attempt for my fingers to explain what happened before my brain thought about it. https://goccf.com/t/54198&whichpage=2
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I really don't want to argue about this sort of stuff Remmy, as you are well aware, it is much to earrrrrlyyyy in the morning for that yet. 
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It is hard to work on a server outage and maintain an online conversation without cross chatter in the brain! I wish Peaceman would come back to CCF. I aint seen him on here in a while! But he is a busy guy. I pm'd him today and he is busy. Nothing to argue about... you are most correct in your statement about breaks.... I know that about breaks. Bad verbiage... C'mon give a guy a break. 
Edited by remmy1100 08/27/2010 3:43 pm
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Quote: It's just like a die crack. It will never go away (unless the die is actually refilled with metal - very unlikely) Okay, is this what you were talking about?
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yeppers. Aside from no sleep from the newborn, I am multi-tasking, and I cant walk and chew gum so NAH!
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Hey we're on fire already... LOL this is a thread that has ZERO interest by Oz. He just aint a peace guy. But he gifted me a VERY COOL Peace dollar once. He's a heckuvaguy.
Edited by remmy1100 08/27/2010 4:03 pm
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Wow... where did that post (at the top) come from... As far as the hammer being the reverse... It was in fact in mint records that the reverse die was used as the hammer for Peace dollars. its in the books also. I would be happy to ship you a book to read if you are interested enough. Seriously. Very cool information and you seem to be interested. :) I have made more page edits today than ever... its gotta be a record or something. I need to get some SLEEP!
Edited by remmy1100 08/27/2010 4:12 pm
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Yes he is. Terry is one of my all time favorites. I have great admiration and respect for him. I too am moving around like a zombie, and I think it is because of this thread. I thought it was still fairly early morning, yet my entire morning is gone. As far as the notion of the planchet automatically filling the die, or the coiner doing so deliberately, I think that I would have used words to add a much higher degree of certainty than merely "very unlikely". I have to go get some stuff done Remmy, but when I get back, I will try to explain to you just why either of those notions is ridiculous. I will have to go back to page one to look at the Peace dollar again to contemplate just what you are talking about concerning the relief clashing too. I cannot for the life of me imagine physical differences occurring regardless of which die was on top, or which design was used, but I will think about it. The device drop offs are what is transferred in clashing, it cannot be otherwise. Some folks think that the word LIBERTY on a Morgan is incuse on the coin, but is it really, or is this the illusion achieved because the headband surrounding LIBERTY is incuse on the die leaving LIBERTY at field level?
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