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1977-D Silver Half - Call Me Crazy!

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 Posted 11/23/2010  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oblakavshtanax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the 77 is the bottom one in that stack in the new pics? it looks copper clad. I'm like 99.9% sure that's what you've got.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no offens but that video was lame an didnt do anything we could not see what coins were being droped
they indt even sould dropped but more like clung together

film it agian show the coin up close incluing the side
put it in the middle of a nickleclad silver clad an silver
should end any debate
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 Posted 11/24/2010  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've got to let us know specifically which coin in the stack is the 77D and which is the 66. I can't tell from the pics or your descriptions.

Two things though:

1) Would there be a 40% planchet left over in Denver from '76? Weren't all the 40% bicentennial halves minted in San Francisco?

2) If you do think you have something there - stop dropping it and/or banging it up against other coins!
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 Posted 11/24/2010  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hybes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '77d is the 6th coin from the bottom in the stack, the '66 is the 6th coin from the top of the stack.

I am not steven spielberg here so cut me some slack on the video, you can hear the coin stack being dropped in my hand and when the sixth coin (77d) falls you can hear the obvious difference. I even have a small pause after it to make it obvious. If I do have a rare coin on my hands forgive me for not wanting to drop it on my tile floor. I will see what I can do different with the video to make it better.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell anything from the photos or video. 99.99% chance it is a copper-nickel with unusual toning/weight but you never know. The fact that the coin seems unusual to you, an experienced half dollar hunter, may warrant sending it over to a TPG if it passes the simple (but inconclusive) silver screening tests.

If it proves to be a genuine silver error, that is a $3200 coin at auction in MS-62 !
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 Posted 11/24/2010  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know, this "drop test" thing bugs the heck out of me.
When I handle coins, you can hear a pin drop, I open a roll and not one coin clinks next to another. I just cannot imagine dropping a coin on a hard surface to hear it ring. especially if it is valuable or might be.
When I see dealers spill out tubes of UNC coins on a hard glass counter for me to choose from, I just wonder how many times that roll has been through that and what the coins could have been if they were handled with more care.
A dig here, a scuff there lowers the grade.
Call me over protective but I would rather have a mystery for awhile longer than to have an answer with a scratch or rub on it.
The tissue test sounds like a much better idea to me.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this were a gem Morgan dollar, I would say definitely don't drop test it. Since it is a garden variety BU 1977-D JFK, I'd say go ahead and ring test the coin. If it is the error coin, it is ultra valuable in any grade. Might even be worth more, dare I say, circulated since it would exceptionally unusual for a rare coin to stay in circulation so long unnoticed.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TenSense to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WEIGHT IT.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I am hearing it right it sounds like silver, drop on a wood surface and it should also sound signifigantly different then a clad. A light drop wouldn't change the value IMO.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You say if you hold it just right you can see a copper layer on the edge, I am no half expert nor do I roll search but I would think silver shouldn't have the copper ring on the edge
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 Posted 11/24/2010  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 40% silver half dollars do, but the copper ring has a gray tinge to it.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps the clad layers are not the correct proportions. This would change the way the coin sounds when dropped, and explain the minimal visible copper you are explaining as well. I have read on this forum that blanks sometimes are not quality controlled too extensively and if weight is correct then the layers can vary.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '77-D half dollars in 40% are quite scarce; about 6 known.

It might be a silver plated one rather than 40%.

If the edge looks solid silver then it's probably plated.

Good luck.
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 Posted 11/24/2010  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should perform the tissue test as described by Biokemist, using that 1966 silver-clad half plus some ordinary non-silver coins as references. If it passes (and you're still convinced it is a silver-clad error) then invest the grading fee to send the coin to ANACS for authentication. If it's the real thing the grading fee would be a negligible expense compared to the value of the coin. Weighing the coin would (as mentioned) give inconclusive results. The specific gravity test would be better but it is a bit tricky to perform and requires a good lab-quality scale for accuracy.
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 Posted 11/25/2010  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no one is telling anyone to drop the coin 5 ft to the ground or damage it in anyway.

Simply set up your cameraso we can see and hear the coins

go to the floor or a granitne counter top
Take the coin hoover a few inches let it fall , on the side of the coins reed
do this with a silver/clad an nickle clad.

being you are not showing close up footage of the coins or the drop test
i suspect you already know the out come and your just dragging out the thread
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