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Let me preface this by saying, I have searched tens of thousands of half dollars, found over 1750 silver ones, some obvious some not until I drop them back in the wrapper. But today I found a 1977d Silver Half Dollar, sounds like 40% to me. Am I losing my mind? I have only been in the Coin World for about ten months so I don't know if I am crazy or what. I did a google search and found nothing. Can someone help me out? http://picasaweb.google.com/1074358...jzK_5hM2dag#Obviously pics don't do it justice! Edited by hybes 11/23/2010 02:13 am
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I thought I read there were some 77 40% halves made in error. Maybe you have one, What is the weight? It should weigh 11.5 gr. 11.34 gr would be a normal non silver half.
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does not look silver , post a pic of the side of the coin also did you do the drop test with a 64-70 40% to see if they sound the same the cassic ring versus thump sound
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"Let me preface this by saying, I have searched tens of thousands of half dollars" of course I did the drop test. It rings like a 40% and if I shift the coin in the right light I can just make out the copper line. I do not have a scale (or a popsicle stick) so I will have to get back to you on the weight.
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from the link above "The Red Book notes in its introduction to the Kennedy series that silver clad errors exist for 1971D and 1977D " jesus if this is so , you might be a richer man !
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Very intriguing find - best of luck!
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1971 and 1977 are the years that one would expect could produce such errors since they follow a year where 40% half dollars were minted (all of the early ones were minted in Denver, I am not sure but I think that all of the bicentennial silver was also minted there). Weight is the most definitive test. Drop sound and other anecdotal tests are not conclusive. While the existence of a copper core clearly means a coin is clad, the lack of visible copper is not proof of silver. Take your coin to a dealer, jeweler, or pawn shop and ask them to weigh it for you. Any of these are likely to have a scale capable of determining the difference. To be sure, take along some known clad and 40% coins to also weigh. This will hopefully clearly show which group the coin in question belongs to.
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Looks normal CuNi clad to me...but hope I'm wrong for your sake.
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I would take it to a local coin dealer or jewelry store and ask them to weigh it for me if I didn't have a scale.1977-D is a coin that was made in error with 40% but not many are known.
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Let us know what you find out. This is very interesting.
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Bedrock of the Community
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What does the tissue test say? Weight might be a good first step, but it can't prove aything. Thhe weights of the clad and the 40% silver are close and the mint tolerances are great enough that there is considerable overlap between the two (A weight anywhere from 11.1 grams to 11.9 grams would be within tolerance for either one of them). A specific gravity test would be a better way to go.
Edited by Conder101 11/23/2010 1:08 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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To my eyes, CuNi clad and silver clad look quite different and that one appears to be CuNi. Weight is almost useless when the tolerances of two coins overlap. Specific gravity would be a much better test as would the tissue test. Even though the Kennedys are only 40% silver, they are clad with the outer layer 80/20 AgCu while the core is 20/80 AgCu. For the tissue test, place a single layer tissue over a known silver coin- notice that the coin shines bright white through the tissue. Then place the tissue over a known CuNi coin- it will appear dark grey. Rinse and repeat for the half dollar in question and you have you answer.
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looks like cupro-nickel clad to me. put a pic of the rim up. that'll probably prove as definitive as the tissue test.
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