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Hi middross,
I refer you to my last message, 07/09/2013, you will see, with the number, a 5 cents 1932 Far 2. You will have no problem to establish the difference with your coin ( Near 2 ).
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I know that seller, and have even sold him some coins back in 2007-2008. He had a very nice 5-collection in ICCS flips, claiming to have the best collection on CCRS actually... until some PCGS heavy hitters deflated that claim... then began a back and forth bickering match between this seller and Sandy Campbell, about PCGS grading.... I am sure Zonad and nickelsguy remember this well....
Ahh... the good old days of CCRS, before the webmaster brought down the censorship and draconian rules...
I think a collector here in Ottawa bought this seller's collection of mint state no-chrome 5-cent coins, auctioned in Nuphilex a couple of years ago...
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Yikes! $750 for a scratched F-12?
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In the last months, I obtain the following new data for the varieties of 5 cents 1932 :
- 0 Far 2
- 61 Near 2.
So the result today is`:
35/4467 = 0.78 % for the variety Far 2
4432/4467 = 99.22 % for the variety Near 2 .
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New data for these varieties :
- 0 coin Far 2
- 52 coins Near 2.
So the result today is :
35/4519 = 0.77 % for the variety Far 2
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4484/4519 = 99.23 % for the variety Near 2.
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SPP-Ottawa, " God bless you " ! I let you in the field of your exclusive search  |
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I think more valuable discussion is warranted, rather than waving a finger and saying a thread shouldn't be revived.
If this was a new ONE CENT variety, with less than 50 known samples, I'd expect SPP would be slightly more excited.
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I think more valuable discussion is warranted, rather than waving a finger and saying a thread shouldn't be revived. This variety is now in CCN Trends, and there has been some prices established based on relative scarcity. bosox and several others tried to explain that the research needs to extend to a proper die study, in this thread, some time ago... We also discussed in this same thread, that unless you possess all 4519 coins, the method of calculating relevant statistics is flawed. Yet, those suggestions were either misunderstood (possibly a language barrier), or ignored... My current response basically means that a handful of coins counted from another coin show is meaningless, other than to extend a thread dating back to 2011. If you want NEW information, then fine. A study of the 1932 specimen strikes is ongoing, I have examined at least six different specimen strikes to date and am awaiting an ordered copy of the mint report from 1933 (covering the 1932 mintage) - the real question is: was a specimen die produced specifically for that purpose, or was a new production die used for specimen strikes. Answers to those questions, will lead to more questions, some of which may be impossible to answer. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Was there something different between a well prepared and carefully used production die, and a specimen die? My thinking has been along the line that any die is an expensive entity, and after it has struck a few hundred gifts, it could then be used in production. Seems a complete waste to make a die pair for just a few hundred strikings for ANY YEAR. So, did they ever make dies exclusively for specimens? Also, were custom presses used for specimens, or were production presses able to strike harder and slower for the purposes of striking a specimen? The RCM wasn't able to call what it did "proof" until the 1976 Olympic issues. So, something was up with the equipment. |
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Many peoples are able to present hypothesis or theories about a production die and a specimen die for this variety, but is it so important ? All members can admit as incontestable facts : 1- The search of data and discussions on the varieties of 5 cents 1932 started in 2009 : - numicanada.com ( 27/11/2009 ) - canadiancoin.com ( 26/12/2010 ) - coincommunity.com ( 01/04/2011 ) - canadian coopercoins.com ( 29/02/2012 ). 2- In this period ( 2009 to 2013 ), we obtain only 35 exemplaries of 5 cents 1932 Far 2 that were repertoried from members that have presented all their data for Near 2 and Far 2 coins. 3- Today, I see on ebay : - 43 results for 5 cents 1926 Far 6 - Only 1 result for 1932 Far 2. 4- We know, following discussions on the sites above and with the listing on the trends of CCN, that the variety Far 2 is well knowned in America. So I think that the rarity of this variety is an undeniable fact. |
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