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5 Cents 1932 ( Varieties : Far 2 And Near 2 )

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 Posted 09/24/2013  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We agree that the Far 2 is rare. Done
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 Posted 09/30/2013  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
? what happened here?
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 Posted 09/30/2013  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jkol2369 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 09/30/2013  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dan... been a few years, but definitely deja vu...
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 Posted 10/02/2013  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
About varieties of 5 cents, I know only the 64th Edition, 2010, of Canadian Coins, for the Victorian Coins, section of " Five cents Victorian Die Varieties ", in pages 247-402.

But for all 5 cents, from 1902 to 1952 ( or more ), I think that the Canadian Coins will be available only in 2016.

Did you know an other book available now, in Canada, for errors and varieties of 5 cents ( 1902 to 1952 )
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 Posted 10/02/2013  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To my knowledge, a book on errors of that denomination, written by a numismatist as the result of serious research, is still to be written. Charlton is a good source of information but, as all general catalogs it has to be somewhat superficial.

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 Posted 10/02/2013  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ t_y,

You say : " Charlton is a good source of information but, as all general catalogs it has to be somewhat superficial. "

Maybe but, if collectors of circulation's coins ( Canada ) utilize Charlton and the trends of CCN, I don't see for why these publications are not OK for collectors of errors and varieties when they describe errors and varieties of these coins

I agree with you that "... a book on errors of all denominations, written by a numismatist as the result of serious research, is still to be written ". More, we have no section fot the 5 cents, in the Charlton's book, for the period 1902 to 2013.

Like some collectors of errors and varieties, in 2013, I have in hand :
- all (7) publications of Zoell, from 1960 to 1970.
- all Charlton's books, from 2004 to 2013.
And more, I consult some sites like numicanada, coincommunity and others....
And more, as we have no more publications, in Canada, about errors and varieties, I consult some publications, from USA, because we have nothing more in our country

With all these sources of information, despite nothing is perfect, I think that collectors of errors and varities, like me, can go ahead with their collections
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 Posted 10/02/2013  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of points:

1. "Trends" is not a book or a catalog - it is just a price list based on coins already listed in Charlton (with minor exceptions).

2. The manufacture of coins in Canada is different from US. Approach american books on errors with a grain of salt (or the whole shaker)

Lack of references should not hinder collecting. On the contrary. I collect twoonies since February 1996. There was nothing published in this series, and still, today, there is very little. I wrote and discover as I went along, I collected information from other collectors and today I try to bring others into the field.
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 Posted 10/02/2013  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For errors, there are some books. Some are not really that great, but you sometimes do see articles of Canadian errors in the CONECA journal - Errorscope.

Henry's collection of articles in the CN Journal on Canadian errors (Oops of the Month column), is about as good as it gets. Having an active membership in the RCNA, allows one online digital access to all of Henry's previous articles.

Until the demand reaches a point, where a publisher can make money selling a book on varieties and errors, this is about as good as it gets....
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 Posted 10/03/2013  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To address SPP's last point. The error / variety market in Canada is very small, just due to population size. The the effort to produce a free standing book is so expensive and time consuming for an individual engaged in primary research, that unless it's a labour of love and self published, it will not see the light of day. The US (I live in the US) is much different. They have the benefit of population size so that the cost-benefit equation shakes out different. That is why you see these books in the US market more so than in Canada. I focus primarily on large cents. I'm willing to bet that there are not more than 100 serious variety collectors in all of Canada. By serious, I mean those that found our variety section in the 65th ed of Charlton was just a taste. The vast majority of the population that collects this series would not look that deep and we only went to about 80 different varieties.

Pick your favorite Charlton variety section, that is your start. Join the RCNA so you get access to The Journal. Use their library to see what has been historically written. Pay attention to forms like this one, blogs etc. Pay attention to the individuals in the forms that appear to be advanced collectors in the series. Strike up friendships with them, listen to them. You will end up way ahead of the curve if you do so.
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 Posted 10/03/2013  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barriecarson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well said Dan
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 Posted 10/03/2013  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Dan in Crystal Lake,

You say : " The error/variety market in Canada is very small, just due to population size."

I agree partly with this, but the interest of collectors for this field of collection go on increasing strongly, thanks to internet !


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 Posted 10/04/2013  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ SPP-Ottawa,

You say : " Until the demand reaches a point, where a publisher can make money selling a book on varieties and errors...."

I agree with this and I believe that like this is true for canadian publishers it is also true for all publishers in the world.

The supply and demand is the rule.

All collectors and numismatists know that nothing, nor person is perfect, so catalogs of money must be only used like " guides " for their hobby. But when these books are not availables in Canada, as example for 5 cents 1902-2013 ( errors and varieties ), it is wise to look in an other country to answer to this requirement.
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 Posted 10/10/2013  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

More, I see that some americans books, published on canadians coins ( errors and varieties ), are in the continuity of Zoell's publications.

Zoell was an incontestable pioneer in this field of collection, and more than forty years later, his publications are always used as reference for some collectors.
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