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Za75
So you do not own any of this variety? I was looking forward to hearing how many you actually have found.
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You don't own any examples?
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In 2009, I found, from sellers of my numismatic club ( ANPB ) some exemplaries of Far 2. This variety, in 2009, was unknowed by the majority of collectors and sellers, and we know that much nickel coins were melted since this date.
I sold, in 2012, a VF exemplar with my canadian collection coins of errors and varieties.
I sold also one F-12 and one VG-8 to members of ANPB.
I retain, for my son, a 5 cents 1932 Far 2, F-15 : I think that this will be a nice memory of the involvement of his father in this collection's field.
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za75 - What ever happened to the one of these that I sold you? Is that the one your son has, or did you part ways with it?
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jg86 - On my answer to Coin Chick I note only the coins that I found in 2009, including a coin F-15 for my son.
The year 2009 was for me the beginning of the story with 5 cents Far 2.
The story of the following years is in my " secret garden ".
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Until today I thought that maybe,just maybe,this long running thread was about someone's passion and promotion of a variety he thought was truly neglected.Now it all sounds like fertilizer for the crop of cash in the "secret garden".
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Za75
What you do own for all 1932's I'm guessing has been tallied into the statistics that you have provided for us to view?
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DBM - I will not comment your commentaries.
I will say only that this new variety ( 5 cents 1932 Far 2 ) is only listed in the Trends of CCN, under the description " Far Rim ", and.......
Concerning me, I will have 75 years old in three days, and......
Best regards
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Coin Chick
Whatever the source ( collectors, sellers from sites or clubs ), for the statistics ( trend ), I have tallied the data for 5 cents 1932 Far 2 only when I have obtained, from the concerned sources, the complete data for the varieties Near 2 and Far 2.
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@DBM: Aren't you disappointed how little people seem to care about this?
Can anyone point to a similar occurrence in US numismatics? Would something like this get as little reaction?
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I'm stunned that based on the amount of time this thread has been running, and some of the posts that have been made, that this thread hasn't been locked.
In the interests of disclosure, I have owned three of these, and sold them immediately, so I don't own any, nor have I in at least a year.
I think that most people who discover a variety, and establish its scarcity, would probably act in a similar manner to za75. I don't know if you'd go to the extremes that he has (I wonder how big his hoard is to make it worth the amount of time he's put into it), but I'm sure you'd look around and try to get your hands on as many of them as you can, before "going public" with the variety. As such, it doesn't bother me if he's trying to cash in on the variety.
I do think that ethics come in to play a bit. These coins are selling for hundreds of dollars, so the opportunity for him to get any more for cheap is minimal - his stash can't grow inexpensively any more. I think that if he wants to be the face of this coin, he should declare his stake in the variety. If he wants to withhold that, he should definitely not be understating the known population or scarcity of these coins.
I do believe that this variety is just as significant as the 1926 far 6. Given enough time, I think it will get the same recognition. If that means za75, or his children, cash in, great - he deserves it. I just trust that he is providing the facts surrounding the coin, which I believe he is.
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The facts are straight,but what started out as basically a poll and a means to draw our attention to this variety has now become nothing more than fertilizer for the "secret garden".He didn't buy one from you jg86 because he has none,or wanted a higher grade example.
Call me stupid or gullible,but until this morning I believed za75's motives for the most part were altruistic and numismatic. It has been a 32 page exercise,orchestrated by za75 to increase his equity in these coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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11/01/2013 10:27 pm
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I note only the coins that I found in 2009, including a coin F-15 for my son.
The year 2009 was for me the beginning of the story with 5 cents Far 2.
The story of the following years is in my " secret garden ".
ESL can be awkward. So, let's get a clear response here. @za75: Are you saying that you have deliberately withheld, from your posted numbers, the count of examples that have come into your possession after 2009? You do realize how that would render your posted percentages meaningless? We would have to conclude the number is extraordinary otherwise its affect on your posted counts would be tiny and you would have no reason to withhold them. |
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@ dialog gvf, See my reply, above, to Coin Chick. As examples, I have retained in the trend about varieties of 5 cents 1932 : 1- From Jg86, all his data : 159 Near 2 and 3 Far 2 ( 1/3 in my possession ) 2- From BmOney, all his data : 22 Near 2 and 1 Far 2 ( this one in my passession ). For others sellers, I have not obtain the complete data for the varieties Near 2 and Far 2 : this explain for what these data are not compiled in the trend, " statistic ", for these varieties. You know like me, that from december 2012, about 10 coins of 5 cents 1932 Far 2 were sold on ebay. But I cannot add these coins to the trend because I have not the complete data from these sellers. In my profile, you can read, if you wish, some informations in the section " About me ". If this trend was not serious ( firm ), you could not see the prices of the variety Far 2, in the TREND of CCN. |
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