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5 Cents 1932 ( Varieties : Far 2 And Near 2 )

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 Posted 02/28/2011  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi dialog_gvf,

I have not answered to your question : " What's the rush "

- I don't know if you collect 5 cents and varieties, but it is your interest, not mine.

- The rush, as you say, was to obtain some data, from collectors and also from sellers, on 5 cents 1932, to present strong statistic. I hit the target with 1582 data : only 19 of these coins are of the variety Far 2, for only 1.2 % I think that this is a good news for collectors of varieties, because this variety is not yet well known And now, I can conclude that this variety is RARE
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 Posted 03/03/2011  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Well, "what's the rush?" was a joke reference to the frustrations being expressed that it isn't immediately being recognized as a new variety, considering how long it has been out there undiscovered.

You've done an amazing amount of work on this, and are to be congratulated. A definite service to the collecting community!

As for calling it rare, I think that term tends to be way overused. Unless those 1592 represent a significant percentage of all the 1932 nickels remaining out there, I would think the proper term is scarce.







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 Posted 03/03/2011  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi dialog_gvf,

1592 is the total data that I have obtain in this search for varieties of 5 cents 1932.

19 is the total data for the variety Far 2.

19/1582 = 1.20 %

You have the choice for the proper appellation.

But, for me, if the 5 cents 1926 Far 6 is a rare coin, this one is also a rare coin.

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 Posted 03/04/2011  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dialog_gvf, I agree with you, " the term rare tends to be overused " : if the 5 cents 1926 Far 6 is scarce, the 1932 Far 2 is scarce too.
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 Posted 03/05/2011  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Yes, I think the 1926 Far 6 is properly referred to as scarce.

I doubt there are definitive rules for calling something rare, because it probably depends on the ratio of the supply to the collecting community (the demand). But, if the 1921 5c is considered rare at ~400 known items, I would think that would be near the upper limit of rare. It might better be considered "extremely scarce". Several have come up for auction on ebay the past few weeks. That doesn't seem too rare.

It would be nice if Charlton consider introducing a rarity level to their listings. In their Canadian tokens reference, they report the various rarity levels others (Breton, Lees, etc.) have defined over the years.

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 Posted 03/05/2011  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi dialog_gvf,

I agree with you: in the next " Montreal Nuphilex Show ", spring 2011, I see 13 coins of 5 cents 1926 Far 6, in the auction's catalog.


I like the following shema of Stephen Album ( USA ) for the avaibility of coins :

" Scarce = Usually available without long delay, hardly ever in quantity.

Rare = Demand outstrips supply, and specimens, when available, are often eagerly sought.

Very rare = Seldom available. Collectors may have to wait years to locate one. "
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 Posted 03/05/2011  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just about to get rid of it... Just to confirm, is this a high '2' / far '2' ?

5-Cents-1932--Varieties-:-Far-2-And-Near-2-
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 Posted 03/05/2011  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks canadian_coins,

Nice picture of the variety " Near 2 " : the number 2 is near your red line and near leaf too, sorry !
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 Posted 03/05/2011  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh well... thanks anyway za75.
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 Posted 03/10/2011  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi canadian_coins,

On the page 1, you can see good pictures of 5 cents 1932 Near 2 and Far 2.

I hope that you can find one coin of the variety Far 2 !
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 Posted 03/18/2011  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For information, I have seen, for the first time, the varieties of 5 cents 1932 " Far 2 and Near 2 ", in the book : " Le livre des Monnaies Canadiennes et leurs variétés ", Pierre Charest, 4th édition, 2007, page 64. You can see, in this book, pictures of these varieties.

Good luck to all !
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 Posted 07/05/2012  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Last compilation :

21/2015 = 1.04 % for the variety Far 2 !

No more data ?
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 Posted 07/15/2012  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
5 cents 1932

Up to date, with new additions from numicanada.com :


21/2182 = 0.96 % for the rare variety " Far 2 ".
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 Posted 07/15/2012  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

How about this one:

5-Cents-1932--Varieties-:-Far-2-And-Near-2-

5-Cents-1932--Varieties-:-Far-2-And-Near-2-
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 Posted 07/15/2012  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add za75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dialog_gvf, my opinion : your coin is a " near 2 ".
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