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Pillar of the Community
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Just remember, everything is legal...until you get caught.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Thats highroller from Realcent, he has them. He owns the Portland Mint. I have done business with him, he a good guy.
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Pillar of the Community
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[Do you just make this stuff up as you type or do you think about it first/]  I've wondered that for a few months now... |
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Scubu, would you mind dialing back the vituperation to a more civilized level? I would sure hate to give someone a vacation for being right.
But I won't hesitate. Consider this the only warning.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think this metal rally is just about played out. Silver has been in Free Fall for the past couple days down to $28 and change from $30+.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sorry, but you're an idiot.
"Your honor, I'm sorry but I didn't know it was illegal."
"Oh OK, case dismissed then"
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Valued Member
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Yeah, my brother-in-law is in criminal justice in college, and my father-in-law has a law degree. They both say that ignorance of the law never equals innocence of a crime.
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New Member
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"This lot weighs around 84 tons"
Yeh who wants 84 tonnes of copper pennies, which you cannot melt.
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Pillar of the Community
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84 tons!! how much for shipping?  |
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Valued Member
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I think he offers storage for you at his site.
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Pillar of the Community
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A person can still be prosecuted even if they have complete ignorance of a law. They must, however, commit the act willfully. Hence, someone who inadvertently sells pennies to a legitimate looking buyer would not be guilty of a crime since the act they willfully committed - selling coins to some random buyer - is not illegal. If, however, someone sells coins to a known smelter (i.e. "wemeltyourcoins.com") they are culpable even if are ignorant of the currency laws.
Edited by fenton
01/07/2011 1:13 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The "not knowing" would save you from the fine and imprisonment. It would NOT protect you from the next part "In addition, by law, any coins exported, melted, or treated in violation of the regulation shall be forfeited to the United States Government. " That has nothing to do with not knowing. So you can avoid a $10K fine but you would lose all the cents and or copper.
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Pillar of the Community
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The legal term is Ignorantia juris non excusat, which looks to be Latin for, "I don't care if you didn't know about the law, go directly to jail and do not collect $200."
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Pillar of the Community
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It's o.k superdave
He made himself the idiot with his lack of knowledge
He did not read the restrictions before his comment was posted.
HAD he actually READ the u.s mint press release he would have know what it said ,instead of hersey
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Pillar of the Community
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its not ignorance of the law , that stops arrest and fines
like conder mentioned
" KNOWING "
Its the way the law is written itself.
If the pennies get siezed and taken away? I didnt even talk about that......nor is that my point the point was not knowing avoids jail time and fines
If the canadian man buys them in the usa then takes out of the country? The usa citzen did no crime.
the canadian that exported them broke any u.s laws.
The U.S cant just go arrest him in canada and sieze the coins or copper.
The canadian govt would have to give permission.
Just like right now it illegal for a canadian to melt down canadian copper cents.
But NOT illegal for a american to buy up to $10,000 worth of candian copper cents in canada and melt them down in the u.s.a
This has been discussed on other threads.
Right now if a man flies in from china buys those 25 million pennies and has them loaded on a docked asian freight ship sailing to china. Then flyss home to china
Good luck getting the chinese govt to extradite him.
Edited by coppertop5150
01/07/2011 8:14 pm
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