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Thanks Coop! I was about to post this site also but ya beat me to it. I have 2 2008 nickels that also have the lathe lines as seen on this site. I have a couple 1996-D cents also. Pretty striking in hand I'll say. More so than what is seen in the photos. I think they are as collectable as die trails in my oppinion. I would love to see that half up close. That one looks great. Nice find. WOLF
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Best pic I can take getting the most of the lathe marks I can in it.
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This begs the question that if these lines are created on the master hub, why aren't they apparent on more of the working dies?

Because the master dies and the working dies are both polished after hubbing and hardening. In almost every case these two polishing would remove all traces of the lathe lines. (Some polishing would also have to be done on the master and working hubs as well to remove the oxidation and scale from the hardening process. That should remove most of the lines on the devices.)

If the lathe lines were from the turning of the die bodies to create the shallow cone face these lines might also survive the hubbing since the fields of the hub would be the last part of the hub to make contact with the die blank. If the hub fields made "gentle" contact with the die the lines might survive.
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I noticed some similar circular lines on my 1896 Argentina 5 pesos gold coin. On this coin the lines appear to be raised and only show on the obverse portrait, on Liberty's cap, neck, below the ear, and on her upper lip. I don't see them in the fields. I always assumed they were the result of some kind of lathe process used to prepare the dies but don't know for sure.

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Interesting....does anyone disagree that this is an intriguing and desirable facet of collectible variety?

I'd really like to know more on other's perception of this type.

Personally, I thing they're eye-catching and have great appeal. Anyone want to weigh in?
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I certainly find them interesting, the Nepalese coin pictured was purchased specifically for the lathe lines. I was so fixated on them that I somehow missed a massive Class 4 doubled die on the other side I also recently acquired a 1996D Lincoln Cent exhibiting this phenomenon.
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