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m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 11:14 am I like it a lot! If it IS artificial toning, it's a masterpiece. IMO AT is moot, unless the toning is something like paint applied with a stick! Beautiful coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Funny Money Valued Member United States 424 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 12:05 pm I love the toners. Very pretty coin. If it is artificially toned...beautiful job, and at least its a bullion coin, not an actual "coin"(if you understand my meaning). But overall, let me say again... Report this Post to the Staff
eddiespin Pillar of the Community United States 1547 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 12:13 pm Quote: IMO AT is moot, unless the toning is something like paint applied with a stick! Or nail polish. Don't forget about that one. Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19958 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 12:28 pm While it might be attractive (to some), at least at that angle, the coin has been artificially toned. I like to call it "market unacceptable" toning because it would never slab. The color progressions are completely incorrect for NT ("market acceptable"). The coin is a bullion round. I hate to offend the ASE collectors, but I see them all as worth melt. At my local shop, that's how they are treated. They are in with the regular, non-mint issue bullion. However, if you like 'em, collect 'em, there's nothing wrong with that because all us collectors collect what we like and that's what matters. If you're into toned silver, the book Coin Chemistry is a MUST read. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
biggfredd Rest in Peace United States 9104 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 12:37 pm eddiespin- Yeah, that's my question. What does anyone else use as a definition of when it's AT or not? Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19958 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 12:42 pm It's all about color progression. As a sulfide layer (natural toning) forms on a silver surface it goes through a definate progression until it's so thick it's black. Read the book and you'll understand. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Edited by BadThad 04/10/2011 12:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff
eddiespin Pillar of the Community United States 1547 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 1:01 pm Quote: What does anyone else use as a definition of when it's AT or not? Biggfredd, the unfortunate truth is, there isn't any such definition, so-called "expert" definitions, notwithstanding, that could hold up to the even so much as the cross-examination skills of a 13 year old. I'm sorry to have to tell you that, but that's the way it is. Report this Post to the Staff
rkrj Valued Member United States 277 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 2:23 pm Who cares if it is artifical that is one nice looking coin. Actually if it is artifical toning please pm me I would love to know how that was done. Report this Post to the Staff
Wei Fun Valued Member United States 244 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 3:08 pm For me, because it's so easy to artificially tone cones, I simply refuse to pay a premium for toning. If everyone else had the same opinion, problem solved, no one would care if a coin was AT, since there's be no profit in doing so. Report this Post to the Staff
Wei Fun Valued Member United States 244 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 3:08 pm artificially tone COINS I mean, not cones :) Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19958 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 5:03 pm Quote: Who cares if it is artifical that is one nice looking coin Any serious collector cares. Go buy a pack of highlighters at Walgreens and color away. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
lincolncentguy Pillar of the Community United States 809 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 5:36 pm I agree with BadThad! Report this Post to the Staff
m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 04/10/2011 8:05 pm For all anyone except maybe biggfredd knows, the image has been photoshopped. Scholarly, serious, down and dirty numismatists would reject this coin. I can see their point and for the most part agree with it. I would not pay a premium for this coin, nor go out of my way to own it, but I have to admit it looks good, to me. That said I doubt it has a place in serious numismatics. I have a live and let live attitude concerning other coin enthusiast's opinions as long as they don't stray from the factual. Some folks like AT coins. Some folks don't. I don't think this view separates me from purists, rather it separates me from zealots. Define AT? Possibly. Prove it? Good luck! Cool coin, great post, thanks biggfredd. Edited by m9frank 04/10/2011 8:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Zarboy Valued Member South Africa 169 Posts	Posted 04/11/2011 05:40 am Can this be a fine example of "Nobili Rings"? Coloration by Electrolysis. Report this Post to the Staff
just carl Bedrock of the Community United States 20753 Posts	Posted 04/11/2011 09:06 am Quote: Posted Yesterday 5:36 pm I agree with BadThad! Although that coin and many other toned coins look sort of what might called pretty, nice, cute and many other terms of beauty, there I would agree. Yes they are rather artistic in appearance. And there are actually people that collect mostly or only toned coins too. Of course a neighbor of mine collects auto parts. Another used to collect model planes and all in the original boxes. To each their own I guess. I have no toned coins in my collection. If I find one I want, I dip it to get rid of the toning. I collect coins, not artistic items. Report this Post to the Staff
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