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1946 Half Penny (How Can You Tell A Proof ? )

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 Posted 04/25/2011  02:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Aileen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone give an idea of value. I belive the stamps on the silver are "P" "925", a swan stamp, and I think the last one is a "w" or "3".

Can anyone give me more information.





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 Posted 04/25/2011  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
silver price in weight plus the coin value. Less than $100.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In gold jewellery the P, or GP, would indicate that it's plated. But P could also mean Plumb, which is a high degree of purity. Whatever is stamped on the jewellery is exactly what it is with the P beside it. Can we get a really good closeup of the hallmark, please? I know it's hard even without a camera.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a common coin thats why its converted to jewellery.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aileen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your reply. I have posted new pic's of the hallmarks, but sorry they are not the best. I understand that there are a few of these coins out there, but I thought it might have some value as I believe it was made into this necklace by The Perth Mint and that would mean its rare in it self.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
P for Perth?, 925 is sterling. Can't imagine they'd use a proof for jewelry.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I believe it was made into this necklace by The Perth Mint and that would mean its rare in it self.


Only thing rarer would be the number of people wanting to buy it, except as scrap.

BTW "plumb" has nothing to do with purity, and I've never heard of it used with silver, only gold.

Originally, since it was difficult to alloy gold very precisely, karat gold was allowed ½k±, so anything from 13.5 to 14.5 k was OK to mark 14k.

By around 1979, technology allowed extremely precise alloying, so manufacturers would only make 14k be slightly above 13.5k, saving almost 4%.

So the law was changed, and plumb gold is only allowed ±0.003 tolerance. Instead of 0.5625-0.6042 pure being 14k, plumb gold must be 0.5803-0.5863. All jewelry sold since then must be plumb gold.
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 Posted 04/26/2011  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would have been an over-the-counter sale from the Perth Mint gift shop's jewellery department. As far as I know, you can go to the Perth Mint gift shop today and buy identical items.

I assume that the maker has attempted to follow the English hallmark tradition. In which case, I suspect "P" is the city of issue - Perth - and the "swan" mark is the specific jeweller within that city: in this case, the Perth Mint. "925" means sterling silver. I suspect the "W or 3" is a date-stamp; if they follow the London code, a cursive W that resembles a sideways 3 inside an octagonal stamp should indicate a 1996 fabrication date. Perhaps making inquiries of the Perth Mint directly can obtain some authoritative answers, rather than guesses.

Making a coin into a necklace doesn't indicate that the coin is rare, nor does being made into a necklace suddenly make a common coin rare. For coin collectors, turning a coin into a piece of jewellery ruins it as a coin; it has to be a very scarce coin indeed for collectors to still want it after something like this has happened to it.
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 Posted 04/26/2011  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aileen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Sap for your reply, I found it very helpful.
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 Posted 05/12/2011  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Austacker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree totally with Sap's comments. It also looks like a well circulated coin that has been polished, so numismatically speaking none or very little value. A 46Y 1/2 Penny is not in the rare range either. However it does not always need to be valuable, if you like it that is all that matters IMO.

I have a 42Y that was in a bulk lot, it has a small welded ring on it which now sits on my key chain, good discussion starter sometimes.
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