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 Posted 05/02/2011  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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As for the word Josh the earliest citation is from the St. Louis Reveille of 1845 so I was a little early on that. but it was probably around a little before 1845. In either case it had nothing to do with a Josh Tatum for 40 years later.

Hmmm I did some more investigating and kept running into Josh Tatum. However, I did find that the term was first used in 1845, like you said. But they can't state the origin of it. This predates Tatum.
Here is something else;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVkf0EEl4GM
Scroll to the second answer here;
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...60522AAsiRnd

But then again, I have only found references to the St. Louis Reveille. I have, and no one so far, has been able to provide the actual citation, even tho copies still do exist. Issue and page no. cannot be found by me.

And I found this;
http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article997.chtml
PCGS recognizes the Tatum story. That's good enough for me.
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 Posted 05/03/2011  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd take Conder at his word... he knows his stuff! =) But it's good to do the research on your own. Conder's knowledge pre-dates the Internet and all that anybody wanting to be right can write on it... Anyway, very cool coin. I learned a lot today!
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Another note. I did search for Federal Court cases for Josh Tatum and came up with zero. HHHmmm. The mystery has yet to be solved.
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Citation from St Louis Reveille "Look out in future, and if you must Josh, why, give a private one." Sorry don't have further context.

It isn't surprising that you would keep running into the Josh Tatum Story. It has been repeated over and over since at least the early 1960's and probably even earlier than that. It is FIRMLY lodged in our numismatic mythology. Just like the story that the mint made MacNeil add the chain mail to the Standing Liberty quarter because of a great public outcry over the bare breast.
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"I have always wanted one of them, any idea how much they are worth?"


There was a high grade set of these in a fancy presentation box that sold at a local auction house last week for close to $200. With the sales tax + buyer's penalty, it would have been OVER 200.

Still want one ?
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Citation from St Louis Reveille "Look out in future, and if you must Josh, why, give a private one." Sorry don't have further context.

I think more of the citation is needed. It looks to me like it's someone talking to a person named Josh.
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