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One Bubble Is About To Pop... And It Isn't Silver

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One bubble is about to pop... and it isn't silver

Read what SilverSeek.com is saying -

Gold and silver are strange things. They have been used for centuries as money and only in the last 40 years have they been shoved aside by the financial communists - yet they still exist as a free market monetary asset despite the force of all the government's guns.

The strange thing about gold & silver, however, is that while they are the last vestige of a money that is not in and of itself able to be manipulated by the political criminal class, many people still trade instruments in gold and silver which are easily manipulated by the aforementioned.

........to try to protect ourselves from the collapse of the monetary system by buying instruments (futures) which are a part & parcel with the current monetary system makes as much sense as buying shares of Enron in late 2001 because you had inside knowledge it was a fraud.

So, what's the first moral of the story? If you are buying gold and silver to distance yourself from the highly manipulated and rapidly failing monetary system then don't buy gold and silver in forms that are under the control of the central planners.


Read it all here and check-out the charts -

http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSe...05294114.php

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05/13/2011 5:18 pm
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 Posted 05/13/2011  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW, very scary! I will need to re-think my approach...
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 Posted 05/13/2011  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"don't buy gold and silver in forms that are under the control of the central planners" you mean paper?

Well...maybe they'll be valueable some day. Kind of like silver certificates. Right?
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Great read and an honest evaluation from someone qualified to assess. The only futures I'm buying are shiny and under my control.
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Some people have said that the U.S. National Debt is our #1 national security risk and it clearly is just that. We have tens of trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities on the books and are now within a few years of the collapse of the USD. Can it be stopped? Yes, it can with major tax increases coupled with major spending cuts effective immediately. We are not beyond the point of no return, but we are very close.

A wise man once said, "It will be the end of our great democracy when the people realize they can vote themselves money". That day has arrived but it's not too late! Pay your fair share of taxes and encourage others to do the same. Encourage your representatives, local, state, and federal, to cut spending and raise taxes. Crazy? Hardly, we've had it so good for so long we can all use a little sacrifice. Our future depends on it.

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A wise man once said, "It will be the end of our great democracy when the people realize they can vote themselves money".


And another one wise man said: "There's no crime or wickedness even the softest government can not commit if it runs out of money."
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An even wiser man once said; "BUY PHYSICAL SILVER!"
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don't forget to read the disclaimer at the bottom.
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Danester, that's an interesting article and should be a must-read for anyone "investing" in silver.
Thanks for sharing.

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It amazes me when I hear people say raising taxes will help our problems. This is historically NOT factual. Even JFK - on the Democratic side of the fence back in the 60's said that taxes are raised in order to curb prosperity. Bill Clinton tried to liken himself to JFK saying his policies were the same as JFK's, when, actually, Clinton's were the opposite. Clinton and the current administration both were for raising taxes.

The facts of the matter are that when you allow people to keep their own money - what do they do with it? SPEND. This creates more need for goods; this makes a need for more jobs; this boosts industry; and this raises the GNP and economic prosperity. This also makes for more tax dollars being taken in by the government. This IS the historically proven system that the US used to become prosperous.

The "rich" people who would be dumb enough to stash their money they were not taxed instead of re-investing into their business are the ones pushed out of business by the very root of capitalism - competition. The people lining their pockets instead of growing their business end up behind the cutting edge of business and fail

Just think what would happen right now if gas dropped to 1.00 a gallon. Let's face it, people would be rushing to buy large screen TV's, new computers, pay off their mortgages, etc. with the tremendous amount of money now in THEIR OWN pockets where it belongs. All businesses have more money, banks have more money to play with, and the government would get more tax money.

This WAS the mindset in the golden years of America's economy. History has proven it works. Give the people their own money and the economic woes melt.

Right now it is my opinion that "junk silver" is one of the best things to buy. b/c:
1. It is a PM that will keep its value for buying items.
2. Everyone - if the dollar collapses - knows what a dime, quarter, half dollar are and would more readily trade you what you desire for one of these than for a bar of silver which - to their eyes if unaccustomed to these things - could be counterfeit.
3. Remember that even if the government would try to confiscate silver and gold again, they traditionally leave out any coin of numismatic value. No one can tell me that even a 1964 dime does not have a numismatic value - look in any coil folder and see if it has a hole for one.

The problem with the economy was the government was raising taxes and wasting them. Let us have our OWN money, as a whole we spend it, and there are more tax dollars generated! Write your congressmen and tell them non-tampered-with history PROVES cutting taxes makes the economy healthy. Pay your fair share of taxes yes - it is our duty. But ANYTIME the government takes more control it causes disaster. The P.O., SS, medicare, medicaid, and every other place the government puts it hands is in financial trouble b/c THEY cannot handle our money responsibly.

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The facts of the matter are that when you allow people to keep their own money...

Ah, but therein lies the rub. Those of us who actually EARN money, consider it to be OURS. Socialist politicians (which most are) view money as the property of the state. Whether or not it is temporarily on loan to its citizens is not a relevant factor in their thinking. Additionally, whether spent carelessly by individuals or with purpose by the government, it will be spent.

Man, I really do dislike putting my massive brain into a tiny 1-cc sized government brain compartment just to expound upon their sort of thinking.
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This would be the fine print at the bottom.........gotta love the internet when you say one thing and then let everyone know that just because you said it does not mean its true......i will continue my investing of physical gold and silver as a retirement security ontop of my 401k.....i obviously am not a professional investor of any kind and am only doing things based on things I've read and heard.....but no one can know the future so you mind as well have a little bit everywhere rather than have all your eggs in one basket.....nothing is set in stone to be a perfect investment....anyone that knows the future please pm me and let me know what to do next
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 Posted 05/15/2011  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Raising taxes is definitely not the answer. Anyone who thinks so (that includes most Democrats) need to take remedial courses in both Economics and Calculus. We're on the other side of the curve pass the maximum (Tax Revenue). We need to reduce the Tax Rate to increase Tax Revenue. And, especially now - only a fool would consider raising taxes in a recession!

This was all presented by Auther Laffer in the late 1970's and early 1980's. They always said Ronald Reagan "wasn't a very smart guy", but he understood Laffer's chart. Then we have Barack Obama today, who they say "is such an intelligent person", but for some reason he "doesn't get the concept". Who's the smart guy?

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Young Arthur Laffer (part of my generation)

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Aah, the Laffer curve something that's obvious to every mathematician but not to every economist...

My Three Cents of comment:
- If the government values its POWER over all it keeps taxes above the optimal point.
- If the government values its MONEY over all it keeps taxes at the optimal point.
- If the government values its PEOPLE over all it keeps taxes below the optimal point.
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Wow.
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anyone that knows the future please pm me and let me know what to do next

Yeah, right! Anyone who knows the future will be VERY quietly exploiting their knowledge and not blabbing about it.

As to raising taxes? Heck, yeah! People need to learn that an irresponsible spending orgy HAS consequences. They will not grasp this concept until it bites them in the buttocks... or wallet, in this case. I agree that raising taxes will never solve irresponsibility but it WILL show people that government spending costs them REAL money... and the sooner, the better.
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