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SeatedNut Pillar of the Community United States 2797 Posts	Posted 07/13/2011 3:22 pm Quote: Curious; how did PCGS come up with the determination that a coin with this much wear is a "Proof"? Proof dies are different for circulation strike dies and carry definable die markers. Unless the design is completely worn away, they would be able to discern these markers. Report this Post to the Staff
SilverTurtle Valued Member United States 371 Posts	Posted 07/13/2011 9:09 pm I would like to see this coin and a circulation strike 1837, in VF20, side by side. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/14/2011 10:47 am Quote: Proof dies are different for circulation strike dies and carry definable die markers. Unless the design is completely worn away, they would be able to discern these markers. But since there are no other confirmed proofs, there are also no known die markers. Also back then often the proof dies were NOT different than circulation strike dies. In many cases the same die pair would be used to strike both business strikes and proofs. So if this die pair was also used for circulation coins, how do you determine if a VF-20 detail coin started life as a proof? Report this Post to the Staff
oober Valued Member United States 467 Posts	Posted 07/14/2011 1:42 pm I would see if Coin News would want to do an article, get the hype started. They are members here. More hype usually means more value. Report this Post to the Staff
upstate Pillar of the Community United States 3283 Posts	Posted 07/14/2011 5:54 pm This is totally fascinating Sort of like winning the lottery Report this Post to the Staff
obsan New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 07/14/2011 8:45 pm I spoke with PCGS this afternoon about the specifics of grading this coin. He said the graders did not keep journals on what made them identify the coin as a proof but that he could tell me 4 separate graders had corroborated that conclusion. He said that if I would like to submit it for review they would be happy to take my $25 but that he couldn't imagine the conclusion would be any different. I said "no" that's good enough for me. OBSAN Report this Post to the Staff
murrellington Pillar of the Community United States 3276 Posts	Posted 07/15/2011 01:02 am Hey if 4 of them say it's a proof I wouldn't try to change their mind. that is quite a discovery and will bring quite a bit of value. Report this Post to the Staff
numismaniac Valued Member United States 361 Posts	Posted 07/15/2011 01:16 am I am sure Coin World, as well as other numismatic publications would be very interested in writing a story about this coin. You have started to get the word out already. The more people who hear about this the more money it will bring. I would write a few letters and ask if people are intersted in the story.You need to have the right people hear about this to really get the ball olling. Congrats and Good Luck. I agree with the patience comments 100%. Report this Post to the Staff
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