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Hi again,
I'm wondering if you could help me here. I got a Spanish silver 100 pesetas from 1968 and I'm really struggling to figure out if it's authentic or false. The coin is exact to others that I'm sure of their authenticity, but instead of weighting 19 grams it weight 18.8 grams being uncirculated. It also has the legends on the edge a bit moved towards one side (not completely centered); and also the ring tone is slightly different (probably due to the difference in weight).
I really need to know if it's authentic or fake, to send it back, but I can't make a decision. Would you say that a difference of 0.2 over 19 grams is enough to confirm it's a counterfeit?
One thing more, I got another coin exactly like this one last year (same underweight and same off center legends) but this one also showed what seemed to be filing marks all around the rim (but this one doesn't).
I would really appreciate if you could help me on this one.
Thanks
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United States
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Has anyone come up with an answer to this question about the 1966 Spanish 100 Peseta coin that weighs 18.8 or 18.88 grams instead of 19 grams? The off center edge lettering has me wondering too. Does anyone have any ideas?
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United States
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I asked other people, and without even seeing the coins, they told me that there are a lot of Russian fake silver coins around. What do you think? I think you can drive yourself crazy looking for a boogeyman behind every rock. Yes, there are fakes out there, but the likelihood of non-rare coins being faked is really pretty slim, especially contemporary fakes. There are simply more profitable dishonest enterprises. |
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United States
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The 1908 half looks good, and a decent example, even with the tiny imperfection at K6.
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United States
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Quote: And this is another close up of another Morgan dollar (one from 1921): 21 is a bad date for comparison. They made no $ coins after 1904, and started over. You can tell a 1921 by the reverse. Older issues have feathers on the breast, 1921 looks like plates of leather armor. FYI: the word is toning. |
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That "inner rim" could be some unusual PMD, but it's definitely not normal. That reeding that's missing the groove is a concern as well. For anyone who didn't notice, the OP is from Spain. Counterfooters could more easily sell US fakes there, because collectors would be unfamiliar with those "forn" issues, and there would not be much to compare them to. |
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 , eatngo! Quote:
Would you say that a difference of 0.2 over 19 grams is enough to confirm it's a counterfeit? That's a RCH over 1%, well within tolerance. If it appears to be off center on both sides, it might be a minor error. If it's only on one side, it could be a MAD. |
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Spain
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Thanks Biggfred,
The issue I have with the Spanish silver 100 pesetas is that the 2 that I had with 0.2 grams less, where also the only 2 that had the edge lettering off center; the other dozen silver 100 pesetas in my collection weight exactly 19 grams, and all of them have the edge lettering centered.
These 2 coins are so far the most difficult for me to make up my mind (and the only 2 that I ever returned), I know that 0.2 off weight doesn't make them automatically a fake -even when they are uncirculated-; but the fact that those exact 2 coins that are underweight also have the edge lettering off center is quite suspicious.
One thing more, both coins are from different years -which complicates it even further-; the first I had was a 1966(66) and the second a 1966(68).
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12/01/2011 3:30 pm
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Spain
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Quote:Hi, I'm new to this forum, and I'm wondering if someone can help me with a couple of coins that look to me rather suspicious. What's puzzling me is that the coins weight, meassure, and even sound exactly as they should; but they don't look right. For example, this 1918 George V Silver Halfcrown:  It just doesn't look right; the luster, the details depth, and specially the rim doesn't look like in other similar coins. What do you think? Got another coin similar to this one: again, weak details but full luster; the same problem with the rim; but the weight and ring tone exactly as they should. However, what's bothering me now is that I noticed the axis is not well aligned; it shows a misalignment of around 20 degrees between the obverse and reverse. Could a coin with all these issues be authentic? Edited by silvermaniac
01/27/2012 06:14 am
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Australia
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However, what's bothering me now is that I noticed the axis is not well aligned; it shows a misalignment of around 20 degrees between the obverse and reverse. I'm not sure where your coin is from, but I was just reading an article that said for Australian coins 1910-1964, misaligned faces were not uncommon, especially early on. |
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Spain
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The one I got today is a 1915 British Halfcrown; and the one on the picture is a 1918. I got other George V halfcrowns today along that one -including one from the same type, but different year (1919)- and all of them have the exact same alignment -the bottom peak of the neck on the obverse matches almost exactly the bottom peak of the shield on the reverse-; but on this one, the bottom peak of the neck is aligned with the reverse on the dot after the 15 from the date.
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United States
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Could a coin with all these issues be authentic?
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Spain
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Now I also think so... I thoroughly checked the details, and it's either authentic or a perfect copy. And I looked at the alignment of all other George V halfcrowns in my collection, and I noticed a slight misalignment in most of them; just that this one seems to have a greater misalignment than the rest. Am I ever going to get a fake coin?  |
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United States
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sooner or later...just buy from Chinese sellers, and you'll increase your chances to about 120%
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Valued Member
Spain
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Has anyone here any experience with these modern Chinese fakes?... What gives them up?
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01/31/2012 11:48 am
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