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 Posted 09/11/2011  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Yass.
Thanks for sharing your finds with us. When you say you get a sack of each denomination, how much is in a sack, and do branches normally have many coins on hand?
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 Posted 09/11/2011  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sacks contain the following:
  • $1 - $500
  • 50 Cent - $200
  • 20 cent - $100
  • 10 Cent - $100
  • 5 Cent - $100 (although this sack was not an Armaguard sack and had been refilled by the bank. Accordingly, it did not have any new rolls amongst them)


In Canberra (London cct), I used to have to pre-order, but then I was buying nearly $2000 a week.

The second NAB on London cct didn't hold all that many sacks, but I recall they misordered 50 cent pieces one week and finished up with hundreds of new 50 cent rolls. I let all my Canberra colleagues know at the time. This small bank has subsequently closed down.

The Downer Branch carries a small quantity.

Last week I travelled to Yass. They weren't real keen to supply the sacks, but they did simply to stop my bottom lip from trembling

If you do it ioften, the pre-ordering is the way to go, as long as you are a customer. Otherwise, you have to rely on the good will of the teller and what they have in stock at the time.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
P.S. The teller in Yass knew exactly what I wanted the sacks for. She is also a coin collector. It still didn't stop her from nearly denying my request. It was touch and go for a while. Unfortunately, none were new, and there was very little in the majority of the sacks, although the 50 cent sack this time proved to be a real winner with a near complete set of 2001 Federation States.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
You get through a lot of coins!
Again, thanks for sharing info.
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 Posted 09/12/2011  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinManTim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thread convinced me to start Noodling! I am not big on circulated coins, but have since caught the bug! Have spent a few hours on it so far.

Got $20 worth of 5c pieces from the bank today, was stoked to find the 1972 I was chasing. Can't wait to get more out!
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 Posted 09/12/2011  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used to buy huge quantities every week, but have cut right down. Friday was only my second venture in many months. All my mules were found while noodling at clubs. None from sacks.

I did find a CHU UNC barcelona from a roll. It was more spectacular as it had a wonderful large die crack on it. I might pull it out and photograph it one day.

My wavy 20 came from a sack, but you wouldn't have wanted to hold your breath waiting for it. It took a couple of years and many thousands of coins. But at least I have one.

I also look at each coin through a 10 x loupe. I pick up lots of small Cuds. I have enough of certain types to consider calling the varieties LOL.

Coin Man Tim, check out the echidna's paws. Ther all have large Cuds on them from time to time. I'll post a list of 5 cent errors for you.
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 Posted 09/12/2011  06:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are 5 centerrors I have found.
My database lists them as 'Type of Error', 'Where the error is' and the date. It might be a little confusing but it is the best I have time for

Bevelled Top of "5"
2006 2

Bite
1994 1
2006 1

Cud
Between Lips
1999 13
2000 4
2001 9
2002 3
2004 3
2005 1
2006 4
Cheek
1997 1
2006 1
Chin
2003 1
Lower Lip
1990 1
1998 5
1999 6
2000 1
2001 21
2003 1
2004 1
2005 3
2006 3
Lower Lip & Mouth
1998 1
Lower Lip (Forming)
2003 1
Mouth
1990 1
1995 1
1998 1
2001 5
2002 3
Nose
1996 1
2002 1
2005 2
2006 1
Nose - Obverse
1999 2
2001 3
2002 4
Nose - Reverse
2001 3
Paw - Lower Left
1996 1
1998 2
1999 1
2000 1
2001 9
2004 1
2005 1
Paw - Upper Left
1974 1
1998 1
1999 2
2001 11
2002 9
2004 1
Platypus Nose - Metal Flow
2001 11
2003 1
2006 5
Rim
1988 1
1999 5
2000 1
2001 4
2002 1
2003 5
2004 6
2006 1
2008 1
Rim (Double)
1968 1
Tail of "5"
2001 4
Under Chin
1999 1
Under Lip
2000 1
2001 2
Under Nose
1999 3
Upper Lip
2001 2
Webbed Paw
1998 1

Die crack
Either side of 'T' in Elizabeth
2006 1
Neck to Rim
2001 3
Tail of "5"
2001 3
2006 5
Upper left (Reverse)
2006 1

Die Fill
Base of "5"
1977 1
1982 1
Half "3" in date
2003 1
Missing "9"
1979 1
No "SD"
2006 5
Platypus Eyes
2004 1
Under Nose
2006 1

Error on Nose
.
2000 2

Frosting
Reverse
2002 2
Uncirculated
2006 8
Under Platypus Eyes
2006 3

Interesting Wear
1970 1
1977 1
1981 1
1983 1
1988 1
1991 1
1994 1

Off Centre
1974 1
1982 1
1988 1

Planchet
1966 1
Cheek Error
2004 1
Obverse
1980 1

Spaced IRB
2001 3

Strike Through
2006 1

Toned "5" 1
Uncirculated
2006 1

Upset
1996 1

Weak Strike
"SD" (Unc)
2006 1
Hair
2006 5
Mouth
2002 1

Rim
Error
1981 1
1988 1

Broadstrike
2001 1
2003 1
2005 1

Cud
Upper & Lower Left
1998 1
1999 1

Variety
Large "SD"
1992 11
1994 1
Large "SD" (?)
1991 2
Large Echidna
1984 2
Normal "SD"
2000 1
2004 1
Small "SD"
1992 1
2000 1
2004 1
Spaced IRB
2001 3

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09/12/2011 06:26 am
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 Posted 09/12/2011  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased a couple of loupes last week, and am waiting for them to arrive.

I found a "1983 10 sec" coin from Brunei today. I have never seen one of those before.
It came in a roll from Chubb and its size is a very good match for a 5 cent coin.
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 Posted 09/12/2011  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AaronG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yass, what is a Cud for the 2005 50c coin? And also the wide date for year of the family. Is it easy to tell the wide date?
Also the 2008 20c gap. Can I get a value on all 3 coins? Will be appreciated.
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 Posted 09/13/2011  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2005 50 cent features a number of figures, one of which is a priest. You will note that at the bottom left of his robe is a small space between the robe and the ground. This space (very) occassionally is filled by a Cud. I keep them all, as the size of the Cud varies. My intention is to photograph them and display the 'growth'. One day. :-)

With regard to the wide date. They are easy to differentiate if you compare them 'side by side' or more accurately on top of each other.

There isn't much of a premium for coins taken from circulation. There would be for uncirculated examples. If you were able to demonstrate the disintergration of the die by the growth of the Cud from multiple examples, then perhaps that might be worth something. But overall, they are only of value to a collection (unless they are spectacular examples).

I need my memory refreshed on the 2008 20c gap.
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 Posted 09/14/2011  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I need my memory refreshed on the 2008 20c gap.


See https://goccf.com/t/60312
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 Posted 09/14/2011  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mr T.
I have no idea as to their value. I have put aside 44xCHU/GEM, 31xUNC, 14xTFC (Taken from Circulation EF+ or better. I also have 21 Armaguard rolls. I have absolutely no idea if any are the 'no gap' variety.

I suspect the CHU and UNC are from rolls I have sorted through, so I must assume that, apart from the TFC, they will all be the same variety.
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 Posted 09/14/2011  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
P.S. I class CHU/GEM as having absolutely no bag marks at all. My UNCs may have very tiny bagmarks, none of which are on smooth areas, e.g queens cheek.

As time goes by, my TFCs are saved from rolls because they are still in relatively good nick.
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 Posted 09/14/2011  04:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget the thick and thin "7" on the 2007 20 cent pieces.
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 Posted 09/14/2011  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I have no idea as to their value.

Yeah, I'm not sure either. I don't suppose the latest MacDonald's guide has any information? There don't seem to be any on ebay at the moment.


Quote:
Don't forget the thick and thin "7" on the 2007 20 cent pieces.

Yea, I already have a couple of both. Quite common in comparison.
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